Comments on: All Saints Day 2007 http://www.marketmanila.com/archives/all-saints-day-2007 A food blog that talks about food, produce, recipes, ingredients, restaurants and markets here in the Philippines and around the globe. Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:37:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.7 by: Risa http://www.marketmanila.com/archives/all-saints-day-2007#comment-65701 Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:31:39 +0000 http://www.marketmanila.com/archives/all-saints-day-2007#comment-65701 I've stopped Catholic schooling long ago, and the discussion made me realize that I may have missed a lot in continuing Catholic education. I didn't know about limbo being obsolete. It makes me wonder if I haven't been picking this up in mass celebrations or if SUnday mass is the avenue for this. Imagine my horror when I discovered that Pluto's gasses have dispersed and is no longer a "technical" planet. Whatever will happen to the mnemonic, "My very eager mother just served us nine papayas." No more papayas! I also recall that during my elementary days, the mnemonic was, "My very eager mother just served us papayas nine," allegedly because Pluto and Neptune have crossed orbits and Pluto was actually closer to the sun at that time. (Ack! Does anyone remember this? Or was this true?) I’ve stopped Catholic schooling long ago, and the discussion made me realize that I may have missed a lot in continuing Catholic education. I didn’t know about limbo being obsolete. It makes me wonder if I haven’t been picking this up in mass celebrations or if SUnday mass is the avenue for this.

Imagine my horror when I discovered that Pluto’s gasses have dispersed and is no longer a “technical” planet. Whatever will happen to the mnemonic, “My very eager mother just served us nine papayas.” No more papayas!

I also recall that during my elementary days, the mnemonic was, “My very eager mother just served us papayas nine,” allegedly because Pluto and Neptune have crossed orbits and Pluto was actually closer to the sun at that time. (Ack! Does anyone remember this? Or was this true?)

]]> by: Marketman http://www.marketmanila.com/archives/all-saints-day-2007#comment-65494 Sun, 04 Nov 2007 05:17:08 +0000 http://www.marketmanila.com/archives/all-saints-day-2007#comment-65494 Hi everyone, oops. Limbo it is. I always thought of that as the dance. But that is just me. At least most of you see the humor... I was off for three days. Didn't check my site and hope you all had a good long holiday! :) Hi everyone, oops. Limbo it is. I always thought of that as the dance. But that is just me. At least most of you see the humor… I was off for three days. Didn’t check my site and hope you all had a good long holiday! :)

]]> by: Father Jim Lim Tiu http://www.marketmanila.com/archives/all-saints-day-2007#comment-65474 Sun, 04 Nov 2007 01:01:05 +0000 http://www.marketmanila.com/archives/all-saints-day-2007#comment-65474 Greetings of Peace and Joy in the Lord, MM! I just wanted to say something on the subject of Purgatory and the papacy. The teaching of Purgatory has not been "obliterated" by any pope. In fact, at the General Audience of Wednesday, 4 August 1999, following his catecheses on heaven and hell, the late Holy Father John Paul II reflected on Purgatory. He explained that "the term purgatory does not indicate a place, but a condition of existence", where Christ "removes ... the remnants of imperfection". Pope John Paul II pointed out that the essential characteristic of heaven, hell or purgatory is that they are states of being of a spirit (angel/demon) or human soul, rather than places, as commonly perceived and represented in human language. This language of place is, according to the Pope, inadequate to describe the realities involved, since it is tied to the temporal order in which this world and we exist. In this he is applying the philosophical categories used by the Church in her theology and saying what St. Thomas Aquinas said long before him. "Incorporeal things are not in place after a manner known and familiar to us, in which way we say that bodies are properly in place; but they are in place after a manner befitting spiritual substances, a manner that cannot be fully manifest to us." [St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologiae] Greetings of Peace and Joy in the Lord, MM! I just wanted to say something on the subject of Purgatory and the papacy. The teaching of Purgatory has not been “obliterated” by any pope.
In fact, at the General Audience of Wednesday, 4 August 1999, following his catecheses on heaven and hell, the late Holy Father John Paul II reflected on Purgatory. He explained that “the term purgatory does not indicate a place, but a condition of existence”, where Christ “removes … the remnants of imperfection”. Pope John Paul II pointed out that the essential characteristic of heaven, hell or purgatory is that they are states of being of a spirit (angel/demon) or human soul, rather than places, as commonly perceived and represented in human language. This language of place is, according to the Pope, inadequate to describe the realities involved, since it is tied to the temporal order in which this world and we exist. In this he is applying the philosophical categories used by the Church in her theology and saying what St. Thomas Aquinas said long before him.
“Incorporeal things are not in place after a manner known and familiar to us, in which way we say that bodies are properly in place; but they are in place after a manner befitting spiritual substances, a manner that cannot be fully manifest to us.” [St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologiae]

]]> by: blaise http://www.marketmanila.com/archives/all-saints-day-2007#comment-65244 Fri, 02 Nov 2007 07:57:15 +0000 http://www.marketmanila.com/archives/all-saints-day-2007#comment-65244 That santo is an art-piece.. I also collect mini figurines made of tusk.. I know, I know, but they give the piece a more interesting touch.. That santo is an art-piece.. I also collect mini figurines made of tusk.. I know, I know, but they give the piece a more interesting touch..

]]> by: Paquito http://www.marketmanila.com/archives/all-saints-day-2007#comment-65220 Fri, 02 Nov 2007 01:33:37 +0000 http://www.marketmanila.com/archives/all-saints-day-2007#comment-65220 Hi MM. The existence of Purgatory has NOT been denied or questioned by the Pope. It is the question of the existence of Limbo which the Pope has said that needs to be studied. The existence of Purgatory is already a Church dogma and therefore its denial by any Catholic, much more by a Pope, is heresy. But getting back to more mundane things, yes the ivory piece that you have of the Blessed Virgin is truly beautiful. Have a happy long weekend MM! Hi MM. The existence of Purgatory has NOT been denied or questioned by the Pope. It is the question of the existence of Limbo which the Pope has said that needs to be studied. The existence of Purgatory is already a Church dogma and therefore its denial by any Catholic, much more by a Pope, is heresy. But getting back to more mundane things, yes the ivory piece that you have of the Blessed Virgin is truly beautiful. Have a happy long weekend MM!

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