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		By: Celine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Celine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi!

Are you still supplying pine trees to S&#038;R this year? If so, when is the expected arrival in Manila? I already checked with S&#038;R and they cannot give a firm date on this. I just would like to know if it will be available by October or November.

Also, how long does a tree normally last? will it last until January?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!</p>
<p>Are you still supplying pine trees to S&amp;R this year? If so, when is the expected arrival in Manila? I already checked with S&amp;R and they cannot give a firm date on this. I just would like to know if it will be available by October or November.</p>
<p>Also, how long does a tree normally last? will it last until January?</p>
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		By: Peter		</title>
		<link>https://www.marketmanila.com/archives/news-flash-reserve-your-fresh-douglas-fir-christmas-tree-now#comment-71388</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Would like to get a live tree this year.  Me and my wife spent our first Christmas as a married couple with a live tree in Malaysia last year.  We bought it in Ikea.  It was very cheap.  The stand is more expensive than the tree.

It was a lovely 6ft tree.  Short but very stout.  Very nice smell.  I remember that whenever we come home from work, the tree&#039;s scent filled our room.

Can we get a shorter tree here to fit our crampy condo?  5-6 ft should be ok.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would like to get a live tree this year.  Me and my wife spent our first Christmas as a married couple with a live tree in Malaysia last year.  We bought it in Ikea.  It was very cheap.  The stand is more expensive than the tree.</p>
<p>It was a lovely 6ft tree.  Short but very stout.  Very nice smell.  I remember that whenever we come home from work, the tree&#8217;s scent filled our room.</p>
<p>Can we get a shorter tree here to fit our crampy condo?  5-6 ft should be ok.</p>
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		By: blu racoon		</title>
		<link>https://www.marketmanila.com/archives/news-flash-reserve-your-fresh-douglas-fir-christmas-tree-now#comment-71079</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blu racoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[i  am  also  a  christmas freak , but  to  me  the  only specie of  cut  evergreen  that  can  endure  all the   tropical  weather like manila  would  still  be  the  noble  pine tree.
well  simply  because  it  has  a  better  shape  , long  lasting         freshness as  to  compared  to  the   douglas  fir , well  over load  it  with  lights  and  it  will  just  invite  a  fire  hazard  to  happen very  soon  ast  it  will  dry  up  the  needles  of  the  tree . 
to  maintain  a   fresh  cut  evergreen           really  needs  a  good  metal  christmas tree  stand  that  yoi  willl fill  with  a  christmas  tree preservative to  keep  it  green  anf  fragrant so  that  yoi  will  enjoy  it  longer.  and  also  just  like  the  local  counterparts  the  ones  grown  in  tagaytay and  sold  in  mckinley  in  december will  not  hold  as  the  vendors would  promise , simply  because  they  are  sold and  displayed  under  the  sun  and  are  not  kept  in  the  shade   di  ba , so  how  willl it  ever be  possible  to  enjou  it  till  after  the  holidays?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i  am  also  a  christmas freak , but  to  me  the  only specie of  cut  evergreen  that  can  endure  all the   tropical  weather like manila  would  still  be  the  noble  pine tree.<br />
well  simply  because  it  has  a  better  shape  , long  lasting         freshness as  to  compared  to  the   douglas  fir , well  over load  it  with  lights  and  it  will  just  invite  a  fire  hazard  to  happen very  soon  ast  it  will  dry  up  the  needles  of  the  tree .<br />
to  maintain  a   fresh  cut  evergreen           really  needs  a  good  metal  christmas tree  stand  that  yoi  willl fill  with  a  christmas  tree preservative to  keep  it  green  anf  fragrant so  that  yoi  will  enjoy  it  longer.  and  also  just  like  the  local  counterparts  the  ones  grown  in  tagaytay and  sold  in  mckinley  in  december will  not  hold  as  the  vendors would  promise , simply  because  they  are  sold and  displayed  under  the  sun  and  are  not  kept  in  the  shade   di  ba , so  how  willl it  ever be  possible  to  enjou  it  till  after  the  holidays?</p>
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		By: carol		</title>
		<link>https://www.marketmanila.com/archives/news-flash-reserve-your-fresh-douglas-fir-christmas-tree-now#comment-66870</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[carol]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I got one two years ago at Cost U Less, but I claimed my order as late as possible so the tree could spend the maximum time in their low-temperature storage. I think I got mine in late November and it happily stayed fresh till past the holidays.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got one two years ago at Cost U Less, but I claimed my order as late as possible so the tree could spend the maximum time in their low-temperature storage. I think I got mine in late November and it happily stayed fresh till past the holidays.</p>
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		By: sister		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sister]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You should have a nine foot Fraser...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should have a nine foot Fraser&#8230;</p>
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		By: CecileJ		</title>
		<link>https://www.marketmanila.com/archives/news-flash-reserve-your-fresh-douglas-fir-christmas-tree-now#comment-66407</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CecileJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 02:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Stef, nice idea re local trees but potted, not cut down.  My Ma has a place in Tagaytay and I&#039;ll try to experiment on potted trees for Christmas Future.  Wish me luck...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stef, nice idea re local trees but potted, not cut down.  My Ma has a place in Tagaytay and I&#8217;ll try to experiment on potted trees for Christmas Future.  Wish me luck&#8230;</p>
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		By: kurzhaar		</title>
		<link>https://www.marketmanila.com/archives/news-flash-reserve-your-fresh-douglas-fir-christmas-tree-now#comment-66390</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kurzhaar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 01:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow, I have to say I was stunned at the idea of shipping live (well, cut-down) trees across the Pacific.  Even before the general public became aware of carbon footprints, we never did &quot;dead trees&quot; in my household.  We choose a potted live tree and bring that in for the holidays, and then plant it once it&#039;s grown too large to drag into the house for the next season.  We&#039;ve had spruces and pines, palm trees and lime trees.  I&#039;ve taken dead tree branches and decorated those as well.  Make your own traditions, I say.  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I have to say I was stunned at the idea of shipping live (well, cut-down) trees across the Pacific.  Even before the general public became aware of carbon footprints, we never did &#8220;dead trees&#8221; in my household.  We choose a potted live tree and bring that in for the holidays, and then plant it once it&#8217;s grown too large to drag into the house for the next season.  We&#8217;ve had spruces and pines, palm trees and lime trees.  I&#8217;ve taken dead tree branches and decorated those as well.  Make your own traditions, I say.  :)</p>
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		By: SimplePleasures		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SimplePleasures]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 00:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[hmmmmm...i have never smelled a real christmas tree before let alone seen REAL LIVE christmas tree...WOW!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmmmm&#8230;i have never smelled a real christmas tree before let alone seen REAL LIVE christmas tree&#8230;WOW!</p>
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		By: Marketman		</title>
		<link>https://www.marketmanila.com/archives/news-flash-reserve-your-fresh-douglas-fir-christmas-tree-now#comment-66318</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marketman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[stef, click on the link in the main post &quot;plastic trees.&quot;  For many years we purchased locally farm raised Christmas trees.  The man who sold them to us (Mang Serafin) passed away two years ago and his family apparently hasn&#039;t bothered to continue the tradition.  These were tropical pines, no fragrance, raised in Batangas.  They weren&#039;t ideal but they were a decent local substitute. The ones from Baguio are actually practically an endangered tree in that so few remain, and aren&#039;t ideal for Christmas in the lowlands as they have a more rustic shape, longer needles and fewer of them.  But as with many things in the Philippines, the economies of scale do not exist, our local tree supplier would charge us up to DOUBLE what you pay for an imported cut pine tree, shipping across the pacific in a refrigerated container included.  And in a good year, Mang Serafin would probably sell a total of just 200 trees.  As for S&amp;R, they brought in only ONE container for all of Metro Manila, so they only think 500 trees will be sold in this market of over 13 million population.  Plastic and typically Chinese made trees are by far the choice of the majority... unfortunately, I think.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stef, click on the link in the main post &#8220;plastic trees.&#8221;  For many years we purchased locally farm raised Christmas trees.  The man who sold them to us (Mang Serafin) passed away two years ago and his family apparently hasn&#8217;t bothered to continue the tradition.  These were tropical pines, no fragrance, raised in Batangas.  They weren&#8217;t ideal but they were a decent local substitute. The ones from Baguio are actually practically an endangered tree in that so few remain, and aren&#8217;t ideal for Christmas in the lowlands as they have a more rustic shape, longer needles and fewer of them.  But as with many things in the Philippines, the economies of scale do not exist, our local tree supplier would charge us up to DOUBLE what you pay for an imported cut pine tree, shipping across the pacific in a refrigerated container included.  And in a good year, Mang Serafin would probably sell a total of just 200 trees.  As for S&#038;R, they brought in only ONE container for all of Metro Manila, so they only think 500 trees will be sold in this market of over 13 million population.  Plastic and typically Chinese made trees are by far the choice of the majority&#8230; unfortunately, I think.</p>
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		By: stef		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not suggesting that you change your traditions at all, but maybe you have suggestions for the other people who 1) can&#039;t afford this, and/or 2) would rather buy something local to support local economy and minimize environmental impact, and/or 3) don&#039;t like plastic either.  Are there people in the Philippines that raise trees for Christmas?  If not, what are the best alternatives in your opinion (e.g., other types of trees, or creative kinds, e.g., tingting)?  Did anyone ever take Mang Serafin&#039;s place?  

Surely if the demand is that great one or two local farmers could be persuaded to raise more trees there?  It&#039;s not like it hasn&#039;t been done before.  Maybe even a CSA-type arrangement, where consumers can pay for the stock ahead of time, be willing to take risks (weather and otherwise) with the farmer and reap the benefits at harvest time....  It seems you have enough readers and connections to be able to put this together, even if it takes a few years &#039;til you&#039;ve got great, local, live trees.  Kids could even help take care of their tree, visit it regularly and develop some connection to the land, learn about local agriculture, etc.  Just a thought.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not suggesting that you change your traditions at all, but maybe you have suggestions for the other people who 1) can&#8217;t afford this, and/or 2) would rather buy something local to support local economy and minimize environmental impact, and/or 3) don&#8217;t like plastic either.  Are there people in the Philippines that raise trees for Christmas?  If not, what are the best alternatives in your opinion (e.g., other types of trees, or creative kinds, e.g., tingting)?  Did anyone ever take Mang Serafin&#8217;s place?  </p>
<p>Surely if the demand is that great one or two local farmers could be persuaded to raise more trees there?  It&#8217;s not like it hasn&#8217;t been done before.  Maybe even a CSA-type arrangement, where consumers can pay for the stock ahead of time, be willing to take risks (weather and otherwise) with the farmer and reap the benefits at harvest time&#8230;.  It seems you have enough readers and connections to be able to put this together, even if it takes a few years &#8217;til you&#8217;ve got great, local, live trees.  Kids could even help take care of their tree, visit it regularly and develop some connection to the land, learn about local agriculture, etc.  Just a thought.</p>
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