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		By: Footloose		</title>
		<link>https://www.marketmanila.com/archives/does-the-wineglass-really-matter#comment-338261</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Tony Bu,  Is it not just old fashioned habit that we find slurping Chinese noodle soup in a china bowl helped along to the mouth with chopsticks and a porcelain spoon so satisfying?  I am sure there is no underlying mechanical justification for that since with the same grain food (processed wheat) and essentially the same shape and texture, we deal with strands of spaghetti by picking and winding them around on our fork.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tony Bu,  Is it not just old fashioned habit that we find slurping Chinese noodle soup in a china bowl helped along to the mouth with chopsticks and a porcelain spoon so satisfying?  I am sure there is no underlying mechanical justification for that since with the same grain food (processed wheat) and essentially the same shape and texture, we deal with strands of spaghetti by picking and winding them around on our fork.</p>
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		By: Marketman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marketman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 06:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tony, if I had to guess, most stainless steel metalware should probably be pretty taste neutral.  Silver would likely react a bit with acid, you can see the impact if you put acidic dishes in a silver bowl... Bamboo or wood might retain some flavors from a previous meal.  Brass (as in those ornate Thai utensils that any traveling family in the 1960&#039;s-1970&#039;s seem to have a set off are probably amongst the worst in terms of &quot;flavor&quot;... traditionally, arte and science recommend mother of pearl or bone for caviar, though I did read somewhere that eating caviar with a clean plastic spoon is just as neutral and non-impacting... But then again, this is off the top of my head...  The ONLY flatware I really avoid using is brass.  Otherwise, I use silver, stainless, ceramic, wood, plastic depending on the meal or location of the meal...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony, if I had to guess, most stainless steel metalware should probably be pretty taste neutral.  Silver would likely react a bit with acid, you can see the impact if you put acidic dishes in a silver bowl&#8230; Bamboo or wood might retain some flavors from a previous meal.  Brass (as in those ornate Thai utensils that any traveling family in the 1960&#8217;s-1970&#8217;s seem to have a set off are probably amongst the worst in terms of &#8220;flavor&#8221;&#8230; traditionally, arte and science recommend mother of pearl or bone for caviar, though I did read somewhere that eating caviar with a clean plastic spoon is just as neutral and non-impacting&#8230; But then again, this is off the top of my head&#8230;  The ONLY flatware I really avoid using is brass.  Otherwise, I use silver, stainless, ceramic, wood, plastic depending on the meal or location of the meal&#8230;</p>
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		By: Tony Bu		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 02:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Would clinking (or sonic vibration) of the glass or crystal chemically or otherwise affect the  quality or taste of the wine?  Drinking wine from a vessel made of bamboo or coconut shell?  Would Chinese foods taste better using non-metallic chopsticks (and scoop) than metallic knives, spoons, and forks?  Food on high-end chinaware or banana leaves?  To  what degree does metalware affect food, particularly acidic ones?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would clinking (or sonic vibration) of the glass or crystal chemically or otherwise affect the  quality or taste of the wine?  Drinking wine from a vessel made of bamboo or coconut shell?  Would Chinese foods taste better using non-metallic chopsticks (and scoop) than metallic knives, spoons, and forks?  Food on high-end chinaware or banana leaves?  To  what degree does metalware affect food, particularly acidic ones?</p>
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		By: ariel		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@footloose

Thanks for informing us of Baccarat&#039;s contemporary lines. Wasnt aware of this. Though I can barely afford them, my impression of Baccarat before is that appeals to those who are fond of middle ages/royalty/medieval history stuff. 

I stick to Riedels and Schott Zwiesels. When outside, even the Ocean brand will do, if the wine isnt that special.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@footloose</p>
<p>Thanks for informing us of Baccarat&#8217;s contemporary lines. Wasnt aware of this. Though I can barely afford them, my impression of Baccarat before is that appeals to those who are fond of middle ages/royalty/medieval history stuff. </p>
<p>I stick to Riedels and Schott Zwiesels. When outside, even the Ocean brand will do, if the wine isnt that special.</p>
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		By: Footloose		</title>
		<link>https://www.marketmanila.com/archives/does-the-wineglass-really-matter#comment-337368</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Footloose]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 00:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not that Baccarat wine glass are shaped wrong but if you were completing your collection of traditional crystal pattern, you might come across  shapes that might be dated and not ideally suited for commonly served wines.   If your primary consideration however, is wine-friendliness (and wallet-friendliness is at the bottom of your list), there is Baccarat’s Perfection red wine glass that was designed to specifications provided by the wine merchants of Bordeaux as early as 1933.  The pieces making up their  more recent Oenology series were designed in collaboration with France’s leading wine connoisseurs of the time.  Their Oenology tulip is about the best glass you can sip champagne from although it can leave you a whimpering wreck if you use them for toasting.   Their Perfection medium brandy glass is exactly that, perfect for imbibing noble eau de vie and dare I say, nothing at all to sniff at.   Overall,  as France’s haute crystal producer, they are up to date with current trends in wine appreciation. 

  As to Reidel, their wide range of glass narrowly focused on specific varietals is to say the least, confounding.  They should get the credit though for cost justifiable and beautifully designed wine glass that can withstand rough handling in restaurant settings and washing in powerful commercial dish washers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that Baccarat wine glass are shaped wrong but if you were completing your collection of traditional crystal pattern, you might come across  shapes that might be dated and not ideally suited for commonly served wines.   If your primary consideration however, is wine-friendliness (and wallet-friendliness is at the bottom of your list), there is Baccarat’s Perfection red wine glass that was designed to specifications provided by the wine merchants of Bordeaux as early as 1933.  The pieces making up their  more recent Oenology series were designed in collaboration with France’s leading wine connoisseurs of the time.  Their Oenology tulip is about the best glass you can sip champagne from although it can leave you a whimpering wreck if you use them for toasting.   Their Perfection medium brandy glass is exactly that, perfect for imbibing noble eau de vie and dare I say, nothing at all to sniff at.   Overall,  as France’s haute crystal producer, they are up to date with current trends in wine appreciation. </p>
<p>  As to Reidel, their wide range of glass narrowly focused on specific varietals is to say the least, confounding.  They should get the credit though for cost justifiable and beautifully designed wine glass that can withstand rough handling in restaurant settings and washing in powerful commercial dish washers.</p>
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		By: Jody		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This post is truly amusing. I am not a wine drinker but in my day I have drank many pints of Guinness. I believe that the best glass for Guinness has to be bulbous shaped at the top. I also believe that draught Guinness will not taste the same from any other shape of glass. As for drinking Guinness from a can, well what can I say.


Jody]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is truly amusing. I am not a wine drinker but in my day I have drank many pints of Guinness. I believe that the best glass for Guinness has to be bulbous shaped at the top. I also believe that draught Guinness will not taste the same from any other shape of glass. As for drinking Guinness from a can, well what can I say.</p>
<p>Jody</p>
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		By: Nacho		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nacho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 03:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with Ariel and Kurzhaar, I like wines quite a bit and do have a little wine cellar/cooler at home, but do not pretend to be an expert on the subject. From the moment I saw your question I wanted to specify that it was the shape of the glass more than the kind of glass. And yes it seems many of the Baccarats and Reidels are just shaped wrong.
   I also prefer my San Miguel Beer in a bottle, my wines with corks, and eating in Jollibees that still have the metal utensils. But that&#039;s just me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Ariel and Kurzhaar, I like wines quite a bit and do have a little wine cellar/cooler at home, but do not pretend to be an expert on the subject. From the moment I saw your question I wanted to specify that it was the shape of the glass more than the kind of glass. And yes it seems many of the Baccarats and Reidels are just shaped wrong.<br />
   I also prefer my San Miguel Beer in a bottle, my wines with corks, and eating in Jollibees that still have the metal utensils. But that&#8217;s just me.</p>
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		By: kurzhaar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Quote:  &quot;so if you shelled out a lot of money for a sexy, supple, beautiful glass, you are more likely to believe your wine is going to taste better&quot;

You could replace the word &#039;glass&#039; with &#039;wine&#039; and this statement would be true for the majority of people.

Wine is a Serious Hobby in our household to the extent where travel is planned around wine (and food) and wine is purchased not infrequently by the case.  But while we have a considerable investment in our cellar&#039;s contents, we have little patience for pretension.  Wine tastings are frequent, often informal with a few friends who are also serious wine aficionados.  Shape IS important and we have demonstrated that repeatedly ourselves at wine tastings, primarily because it allows better appreciation of what the wine smells like (which is a huge influence on the taste of the wine--think about what you can/can&#039;t taste when you have a cold).  *However*, this is true mainly in extreme comparisons--a Dixie cup versus a decently shaped wine glass (by no means do I mean this must be a Riedel) with an adequately large volume and shape to allow swirling.  I like a glass with decent balance that feels good in the hand.  Personally I care very little for most cut-glass or cut-crystal glasses because their shapes are just wrong, or the glass too heavy--most antique crystalware is in this category and I would not serve my wines in them because I care more for how the wine tastes than for the prettiness of a glass.  I don&#039;t think that there is a discernible difference between a glass ostensibly designed for Bordeaux and one designed for Barolo (and yes, I have tried a comparison).  Certainly I would never spend the money on what I think is a marketing ploy--those funds are much better spent on the Barolo itself.  We do have Riedel glasses, but also glasses from other makers, including some very serviceable ones from Ikea that cost less than a dollar each, are dishwasher safe, and stack nicely for storage.  The crystal (inherited) languishes in storage...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote:  &#8220;so if you shelled out a lot of money for a sexy, supple, beautiful glass, you are more likely to believe your wine is going to taste better&#8221;</p>
<p>You could replace the word &#8216;glass&#8217; with &#8216;wine&#8217; and this statement would be true for the majority of people.</p>
<p>Wine is a Serious Hobby in our household to the extent where travel is planned around wine (and food) and wine is purchased not infrequently by the case.  But while we have a considerable investment in our cellar&#8217;s contents, we have little patience for pretension.  Wine tastings are frequent, often informal with a few friends who are also serious wine aficionados.  Shape IS important and we have demonstrated that repeatedly ourselves at wine tastings, primarily because it allows better appreciation of what the wine smells like (which is a huge influence on the taste of the wine&#8211;think about what you can/can&#8217;t taste when you have a cold).  *However*, this is true mainly in extreme comparisons&#8211;a Dixie cup versus a decently shaped wine glass (by no means do I mean this must be a Riedel) with an adequately large volume and shape to allow swirling.  I like a glass with decent balance that feels good in the hand.  Personally I care very little for most cut-glass or cut-crystal glasses because their shapes are just wrong, or the glass too heavy&#8211;most antique crystalware is in this category and I would not serve my wines in them because I care more for how the wine tastes than for the prettiness of a glass.  I don&#8217;t think that there is a discernible difference between a glass ostensibly designed for Bordeaux and one designed for Barolo (and yes, I have tried a comparison).  Certainly I would never spend the money on what I think is a marketing ploy&#8211;those funds are much better spent on the Barolo itself.  We do have Riedel glasses, but also glasses from other makers, including some very serviceable ones from Ikea that cost less than a dollar each, are dishwasher safe, and stack nicely for storage.  The crystal (inherited) languishes in storage&#8230;</p>
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		By: Hunter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 19:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[i totally understand why some people would like to take their wine in a nice wine glass. but it is also true that fancy glass doesn&#039;t do it for me. its the company, the conversation or just the occasion that is a factor to my own wine appreciation.

the thing about subjective measurement is that it differs from one person to the next. one person might want it one way and the other person might want it the opposite way. both are neither right nor wrong. who is to say that drinking fine vintage wine in a Styrofoam cup is not giving the wine justice? remember the last scene of the movie &quot;Sideways&quot; where the lead character basically said, fuck the conventions and accouterments of wine drinking, i&#039;ll drink my fine wine in a styrofoam cup and i will not do it any other way!

to answer a definitive question like &quot;does wine glass really matter&quot; one needs an objective measurement. subjective opinions make for fun and friendly discussions but it will not help you in answering the questions raised.	]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i totally understand why some people would like to take their wine in a nice wine glass. but it is also true that fancy glass doesn&#8217;t do it for me. its the company, the conversation or just the occasion that is a factor to my own wine appreciation.</p>
<p>the thing about subjective measurement is that it differs from one person to the next. one person might want it one way and the other person might want it the opposite way. both are neither right nor wrong. who is to say that drinking fine vintage wine in a Styrofoam cup is not giving the wine justice? remember the last scene of the movie &#8220;Sideways&#8221; where the lead character basically said, fuck the conventions and accouterments of wine drinking, i&#8217;ll drink my fine wine in a styrofoam cup and i will not do it any other way!</p>
<p>to answer a definitive question like &#8220;does wine glass really matter&#8221; one needs an objective measurement. subjective opinions make for fun and friendly discussions but it will not help you in answering the questions raised.	</p>
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		By: Footloose		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[An objectively measured superiority of one wine over another is rarely the thing.  As Josephine brought it up above, to the bulk of drinkers in wine producing regions, what you pair it with takes precedence while to the rest of us who have acquired the taste, we tend to lean more on the ritual and romance surrounding its serving.  I own a few pieces of Herr Riedel’s tasting glass myself and admire the finely honed nuance of their forms but at least to one writer I read who makes his living evaluating wine, there is just too many of them.  As fans of this blog occasionally chuckle about,  you can be overwhelmed by kitchen cupboards full of single-use implements you know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An objectively measured superiority of one wine over another is rarely the thing.  As Josephine brought it up above, to the bulk of drinkers in wine producing regions, what you pair it with takes precedence while to the rest of us who have acquired the taste, we tend to lean more on the ritual and romance surrounding its serving.  I own a few pieces of Herr Riedel’s tasting glass myself and admire the finely honed nuance of their forms but at least to one writer I read who makes his living evaluating wine, there is just too many of them.  As fans of this blog occasionally chuckle about,  you can be overwhelmed by kitchen cupboards full of single-use implements you know.</p>
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