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		By: Regina Newport		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just wanted to chime in and say this is such an interesting blog site -- intelligently written and chock-ful of information for foodies like me (I&#039;m in culinary school at the moment). Gonzo sounds so knowledgeable--and well-spoken to boot--about international cuisine, which is great! Thank you, Marketman. You&#039;ve just got another loyal fan of your site.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to chime in and say this is such an interesting blog site &#8212; intelligently written and chock-ful of information for foodies like me (I&#8217;m in culinary school at the moment). Gonzo sounds so knowledgeable&#8211;and well-spoken to boot&#8211;about international cuisine, which is great! Thank you, Marketman. You&#8217;ve just got another loyal fan of your site.</p>
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		By: gonzo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 02:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually all the latin american countries have a version of picadillo, and they&#039;re all somewhat similar.  Funny that in the Philippines, our picadillo has similar elements (minced meat, chopped potatoes) but has evolved into a soup.

No i have not heard of Rachel Laudan, but she sounds interesting. I do know that there was a relatively large influx of lebanese immigrants into mexico many years ago and they are now well absorbed into mexican society. (the most famous mexican with lebanese ancestry these days is of course the lovely actress Salma Hayek).  

One very popular dish that is directly derived from the lebanese-mexicans is tacos al pastor, which is basically highly seasoned thin-sliced pork slices roasted on a vertical spit, virtually identical to the arabic shawarma (except of course that they use pork and more mexican seasonings), and sliced off the spit then placed into soft corn tortillas w chopped onions, a hot salsa and fresh coriander leaves.  Quite delicious, i love em, a great streetside snack.  In fact when they use a more arabic pita-like bread they call it tacos arabes.

No i didn&#039;t think you were against globalization, but the word itself is too general and too all-encompassing. There&#039;s good bits about globalization and then there&#039;s bad (which is why you see violent protests all over the world wherever they hold free trade summits).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually all the latin american countries have a version of picadillo, and they&#8217;re all somewhat similar.  Funny that in the Philippines, our picadillo has similar elements (minced meat, chopped potatoes) but has evolved into a soup.</p>
<p>No i have not heard of Rachel Laudan, but she sounds interesting. I do know that there was a relatively large influx of lebanese immigrants into mexico many years ago and they are now well absorbed into mexican society. (the most famous mexican with lebanese ancestry these days is of course the lovely actress Salma Hayek).  </p>
<p>One very popular dish that is directly derived from the lebanese-mexicans is tacos al pastor, which is basically highly seasoned thin-sliced pork slices roasted on a vertical spit, virtually identical to the arabic shawarma (except of course that they use pork and more mexican seasonings), and sliced off the spit then placed into soft corn tortillas w chopped onions, a hot salsa and fresh coriander leaves.  Quite delicious, i love em, a great streetside snack.  In fact when they use a more arabic pita-like bread they call it tacos arabes.</p>
<p>No i didn&#8217;t think you were against globalization, but the word itself is too general and too all-encompassing. There&#8217;s good bits about globalization and then there&#8217;s bad (which is why you see violent protests all over the world wherever they hold free trade summits).</p>
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		By: stef		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the mexicans have a picadillo too.  are you familiar with rachel laudan&#039;s work?  wonderful stuff.  she&#039;s been tracing the mexican-islamic connection as well.  incidentally, i&#039;ve found echoes of our cuisine in puerto rican dishes too.

BTW, i didn&#039;t mean to imply that globalization is a bad thing either.  i actually see it as part of the progression.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the mexicans have a picadillo too.  are you familiar with rachel laudan&#8217;s work?  wonderful stuff.  she&#8217;s been tracing the mexican-islamic connection as well.  incidentally, i&#8217;ve found echoes of our cuisine in puerto rican dishes too.</p>
<p>BTW, i didn&#8217;t mean to imply that globalization is a bad thing either.  i actually see it as part of the progression.</p>
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		By: gonzo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 23:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Globalization is kind of a tricky word.  Unfortunately it has been hijacked by neo-liberal institutions and is today associated mainly with economics and the WTO and whatnot, but when you think about it, globalization really means interconnectedness, and that can&#039;t be bad at all.  I mean, the Internet is one good aspect of globalization for instance. 

The slow food movement, the organic farmers, and the people who support them are all part of the backlash against the bad part of globalization.  Those of us who believe in good food produced properly (organically) are the start of an informal movement that will hopefully stave off and even beat back the multinational food chain juggernaut. Yes it&#039;s a David and Goliath thing, impossibly quixotic some of the more jaded amongst us may argue, but then again who won in the end of that bible story?  

One thing we can do now in terms of thinking globally and acting locally is to teach our kids to eat well.  And i mean to teach them how really good organic produce from a small farmer can be. Have them try veggies fresh picked straight from a garden that day, and so on.  We need to wean them away from the clutches of the fastfood corporations.  Difficult but not impossible. 

And frayed, i do hope to check out hanoi and havana one of these days.  Hanoi just as soon as they sort out the bird flu thing, and havana, well i&#039;m interested in the food of a unique subculture in Cuba: the Chinese-cubans.  Imagine chinese immigrants to cuba, what&#039;s their third generation like, i wonder. In NYC there are a few restaurants (notably La Caridad) that offer a Chinese-Cuban menu.  One dish of note is a grilled steak plate served w saffron rice and black beans, mmm.

Another interesting bit of trivia: the dish we pinoys know as arroz a la cubana does exist in Cuba, but there it is called picadillo.  they eat picadillo with white rice, fried plantains and often w a fried egg.  their picadillo has green olives, and cumin, aside from the raisins.  Wonder how it got to us here...i suppose by the same Manila-Acapulco galleon trade...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Globalization is kind of a tricky word.  Unfortunately it has been hijacked by neo-liberal institutions and is today associated mainly with economics and the WTO and whatnot, but when you think about it, globalization really means interconnectedness, and that can&#8217;t be bad at all.  I mean, the Internet is one good aspect of globalization for instance. </p>
<p>The slow food movement, the organic farmers, and the people who support them are all part of the backlash against the bad part of globalization.  Those of us who believe in good food produced properly (organically) are the start of an informal movement that will hopefully stave off and even beat back the multinational food chain juggernaut. Yes it&#8217;s a David and Goliath thing, impossibly quixotic some of the more jaded amongst us may argue, but then again who won in the end of that bible story?  </p>
<p>One thing we can do now in terms of thinking globally and acting locally is to teach our kids to eat well.  And i mean to teach them how really good organic produce from a small farmer can be. Have them try veggies fresh picked straight from a garden that day, and so on.  We need to wean them away from the clutches of the fastfood corporations.  Difficult but not impossible. </p>
<p>And frayed, i do hope to check out hanoi and havana one of these days.  Hanoi just as soon as they sort out the bird flu thing, and havana, well i&#8217;m interested in the food of a unique subculture in Cuba: the Chinese-cubans.  Imagine chinese immigrants to cuba, what&#8217;s their third generation like, i wonder. In NYC there are a few restaurants (notably La Caridad) that offer a Chinese-Cuban menu.  One dish of note is a grilled steak plate served w saffron rice and black beans, mmm.</p>
<p>Another interesting bit of trivia: the dish we pinoys know as arroz a la cubana does exist in Cuba, but there it is called picadillo.  they eat picadillo with white rice, fried plantains and often w a fried egg.  their picadillo has green olives, and cumin, aside from the raisins.  Wonder how it got to us here&#8230;i suppose by the same Manila-Acapulco galleon trade&#8230;</p>
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		By: stef		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 20:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[i do think one day you&#039;ll say we&#039;ve come full circle.  look at the US -- sure, this is where mcd&#039;s and kfc&#039;s and all those originated, but now more and more people here are very aware of slow food, organic farming, getting back to the basics, getting back to growing and cooking your own food, supporting the local farmers.... i think it&#039;s just going to get better as the years go on.  i think the philippines is going through its own renaissance.  after colonization, etc.  you&#039;ve got globalization, you&#039;ve got people wanting to try anything and everything that comes from somewhere else... somewhere along the line people will wake up and want to come back to their roots, to the old ways, etc.  of course along the way you&#039;ll have the &quot;victims&quot; -- people who adopted a new way of life, and who can&#039;t go back to how they did things before.  it&#039;s all a matter of habit, and habit is the hardest thing to break.  but it&#039;s also tied to education.... and what do we do with our blogs?  we&#039;re part of the education movement.  we&#039;ll get back to how things should be... one day.   i sincerely believe that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i do think one day you&#8217;ll say we&#8217;ve come full circle.  look at the US &#8212; sure, this is where mcd&#8217;s and kfc&#8217;s and all those originated, but now more and more people here are very aware of slow food, organic farming, getting back to the basics, getting back to growing and cooking your own food, supporting the local farmers&#8230;. i think it&#8217;s just going to get better as the years go on.  i think the philippines is going through its own renaissance.  after colonization, etc.  you&#8217;ve got globalization, you&#8217;ve got people wanting to try anything and everything that comes from somewhere else&#8230; somewhere along the line people will wake up and want to come back to their roots, to the old ways, etc.  of course along the way you&#8217;ll have the &#8220;victims&#8221; &#8212; people who adopted a new way of life, and who can&#8217;t go back to how they did things before.  it&#8217;s all a matter of habit, and habit is the hardest thing to break.  but it&#8217;s also tied to education&#8230;. and what do we do with our blogs?  we&#8217;re part of the education movement.  we&#8217;ll get back to how things should be&#8230; one day.   i sincerely believe that.</p>
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		By: Frayed		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 08:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One city where I haven&#039;t seen those golden arches is Hanoi. Great local food, not a single fastfood. What a relief. In Ho Chi Minh, I saw a KFC but no golden arches. Also in Cuba. I guess capitalism will soon hit them so the time to visit is now before those arches conquer the rest of the &quot;primitive&quot; world. Sad...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One city where I haven&#8217;t seen those golden arches is Hanoi. Great local food, not a single fastfood. What a relief. In Ho Chi Minh, I saw a KFC but no golden arches. Also in Cuba. I guess capitalism will soon hit them so the time to visit is now before those arches conquer the rest of the &#8220;primitive&#8221; world. Sad&#8230;</p>
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		By: gonzo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 04:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[p.s. that is why , in principle i am against globalization. Aside from poorer countries getting the raw end of the deal in terms of trade, i really abhor what is happening in the food scene around the world--- a phenomenon that has been called McDonaldization. One example: quite a number of the small, charming,family-owned trattorias, cafes and bistros in Italy and France are being forced to close down due to the relentless onslaught and incursions of the fastfood giants with their massive budgets.    

Think of a world where it doesn&#039;t matter where you go, whether Paris, Milan, Bangkok, Sydney or Capetown, and all you see are the golden arches. Or you go to a small town in say Andalucia expecting to find a quaint old-time tapas bar only to see a KFC that just jars your senses?  It certainly takes away from the travel experience.  And as i said, these global chains have started killing off the small, unique family eateries that make living and eating more pleasurable.  By going into an area and bombarding it with million dollar marketing campaigns and also effectively raising the rent in the area, making it harder for the small cafes to survive, the big chains are slowly but surely &quot;McDonaldizing&quot; the world.

Yes Stef, Starbucks is the enemy. haha.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s. that is why , in principle i am against globalization. Aside from poorer countries getting the raw end of the deal in terms of trade, i really abhor what is happening in the food scene around the world&#8212; a phenomenon that has been called McDonaldization. One example: quite a number of the small, charming,family-owned trattorias, cafes and bistros in Italy and France are being forced to close down due to the relentless onslaught and incursions of the fastfood giants with their massive budgets.    </p>
<p>Think of a world where it doesn&#8217;t matter where you go, whether Paris, Milan, Bangkok, Sydney or Capetown, and all you see are the golden arches. Or you go to a small town in say Andalucia expecting to find a quaint old-time tapas bar only to see a KFC that just jars your senses?  It certainly takes away from the travel experience.  And as i said, these global chains have started killing off the small, unique family eateries that make living and eating more pleasurable.  By going into an area and bombarding it with million dollar marketing campaigns and also effectively raising the rent in the area, making it harder for the small cafes to survive, the big chains are slowly but surely &#8220;McDonaldizing&#8221; the world.</p>
<p>Yes Stef, Starbucks is the enemy. haha.</p>
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		By: gonzo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 04:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi stef, the truth is part of my fascination with food (aside from the fact that i like to eat it) is the idea of food as culture. I really believe that you get a better understanding of other cultures by eating what they eat...in fact, by studying our own food, i think we gain a bit more insight into who we really are as a people.  

When i visit a foreign country i really enjoy sampling the street food--again, the food of the people.  Museums are fine if you want to learn about a culture&#039;s past, but to be honest, musty museums aren&#039;t all that interesting to me.  i&#039;d rather learn about a people&#039;s living culture today and then discover how that relates to the past. 

From sampling street food around the world-- or country/peasant food, which i invariably prefer over fancy restaurant cuisine--  you also open a little window, so to speak, into a culture&#039;s history (colonizers, invasions, immigration and trading patterns..) 

It&#039;s all very interesting. And fun, frankly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi stef, the truth is part of my fascination with food (aside from the fact that i like to eat it) is the idea of food as culture. I really believe that you get a better understanding of other cultures by eating what they eat&#8230;in fact, by studying our own food, i think we gain a bit more insight into who we really are as a people.  </p>
<p>When i visit a foreign country i really enjoy sampling the street food&#8211;again, the food of the people.  Museums are fine if you want to learn about a culture&#8217;s past, but to be honest, musty museums aren&#8217;t all that interesting to me.  i&#8217;d rather learn about a people&#8217;s living culture today and then discover how that relates to the past. </p>
<p>From sampling street food around the world&#8211; or country/peasant food, which i invariably prefer over fancy restaurant cuisine&#8211;  you also open a little window, so to speak, into a culture&#8217;s history (colonizers, invasions, immigration and trading patterns..) </p>
<p>It&#8217;s all very interesting. And fun, frankly.</p>
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		By: Marketman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 05:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[stef, no problem at all... the more discussions the merrier...and the more informative.  It&#039;s amazing what I took for granted as fact before I started this weblog and now am much more open to really getting to the bottom of things...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stef, no problem at all&#8230; the more discussions the merrier&#8230;and the more informative.  It&#8217;s amazing what I took for granted as fact before I started this weblog and now am much more open to really getting to the bottom of things&#8230;</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 04:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[hi gonzo and marketman, i&#039;m loving your discussion here! -- perhaps i could interest you in joining us at the ya rayi forum, where we&#039;d love to explore these issues further?

https://s14.invisionfree.com/bookofrai

i also have some posts at beyondadobo.com that deal with this, although they&#039;re mostly personal musings.  marketman, hope you don&#039;t mind, not trying to hijack your blog or anything, just that it&#039;s rare that i find people willing or wanting to talk about these matters in depth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi gonzo and marketman, i&#8217;m loving your discussion here! &#8212; perhaps i could interest you in joining us at the ya rayi forum, where we&#8217;d love to explore these issues further?</p>
<p><a href="https://s14.invisionfree.com/bookofrai" rel="nofollow ugc">https://s14.invisionfree.com/bookofrai</a></p>
<p>i also have some posts at beyondadobo.com that deal with this, although they&#8217;re mostly personal musings.  marketman, hope you don&#8217;t mind, not trying to hijack your blog or anything, just that it&#8217;s rare that i find people willing or wanting to talk about these matters in depth.</p>
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