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	Comments on: Locally Grown Chard, Celeriac, Butternut Squash &#038; Cardoons!!!	</title>
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		By: Margaret O'Regan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Margaret O'Regan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Love your comments about cardoons.  My husband and I plan to start growing them next March or April here in Cork, Ireland.  Seeds are available from moreveg dot co dot uk - I think, for the moment, Europe only.

We have been growing chard for the past few years - a great plant yielding two dishes in stems and leaves.

It is important to keep the old heritage varieties going, and groups like Irish Seedsavers are to the fore in this important work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love your comments about cardoons.  My husband and I plan to start growing them next March or April here in Cork, Ireland.  Seeds are available from moreveg dot co dot uk &#8211; I think, for the moment, Europe only.</p>
<p>We have been growing chard for the past few years &#8211; a great plant yielding two dishes in stems and leaves.</p>
<p>It is important to keep the old heritage varieties going, and groups like Irish Seedsavers are to the fore in this important work.</p>
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		By: Divina		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Divina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 05:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just love butternut squash and the ingredients that you&#039;ve listed. I have to contact Dizon Farms for that. Thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just love butternut squash and the ingredients that you&#8217;ve listed. I have to contact Dizon Farms for that. Thanks.</p>
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		By: RST		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RST]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gej yes!
A couple of years ago, I did some research in Morocco for a magazine and this is from the (unpublished) material.  The specific variety of Cynara involved is still unclear to me: it is probably not cardoons but another kind of thistle.

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MEHLABA

Traditionally, pancakes such as mlawi and msemen are sold out of a mehlaba (lit: &quot;lieu de lait&quot; i.e. a cremerie, a purveyor of fresh milk and milk products) although today this is not necessarily so.  It is in these mehlabas that one can enjoy an early morning glass of rayib (also sp: raib, rryib, Wolfert has raipe), fresh milk mixed with a few spoonsful of fragrant orange flower water and a little sugar and then lightly curdled into a soft yogurt-like consistency.  I have wonderful memories of standing in a mehlaba in the Meknes medina slurping creamy rayib in the company of with market-porters and laborers on their way to work.

Traditionally, rayib is curdled with the vegetable rennet of the dried wild thistle called &quot;kok beldi&quot; (also sp: Wolfert = coques) (Cynara humilis or perhaps Cynara cardunculus).  This is almost certainly a variety closely related to the wild thistle/artichoke that is used to make cheese in Sardinia and in many other parts of the Mediterranean.  I am almost certain that it is the same thistle used to make my favorite Spanish cheeses, the Torta del Casar (https://www.tortadelcasar.org/ingles.html) as well as the Torta from the neighboring village of  La Serena (https://www.tortaserena.com/).  At the end of my trip, I stopped by Formatgeria La Seu in Barcelona (a great champion of Spanish farmhouse cheeses: https://www.formatgerialaseu.com/) where the owner Katherine showed me her stash of dried thistle.  We both agreed that it must be the same thistle.  Nowdays, however, most Moroccan mehlabas simply use an enzyme/microprotease in the form of a pill called asproya (marked &quot;caille lait&quot; milk curdler) that could easily be bought (for 1 dh) for home use from any corner store.  A pill curdles one liter of milk (I was told).

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RST]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gej yes!<br />
A couple of years ago, I did some research in Morocco for a magazine and this is from the (unpublished) material.  The specific variety of Cynara involved is still unclear to me: it is probably not cardoons but another kind of thistle.</p>
<p>Start quote:<br />
MEHLABA</p>
<p>Traditionally, pancakes such as mlawi and msemen are sold out of a mehlaba (lit: &#8220;lieu de lait&#8221; i.e. a cremerie, a purveyor of fresh milk and milk products) although today this is not necessarily so.  It is in these mehlabas that one can enjoy an early morning glass of rayib (also sp: raib, rryib, Wolfert has raipe), fresh milk mixed with a few spoonsful of fragrant orange flower water and a little sugar and then lightly curdled into a soft yogurt-like consistency.  I have wonderful memories of standing in a mehlaba in the Meknes medina slurping creamy rayib in the company of with market-porters and laborers on their way to work.</p>
<p>Traditionally, rayib is curdled with the vegetable rennet of the dried wild thistle called &#8220;kok beldi&#8221; (also sp: Wolfert = coques) (Cynara humilis or perhaps Cynara cardunculus).  This is almost certainly a variety closely related to the wild thistle/artichoke that is used to make cheese in Sardinia and in many other parts of the Mediterranean.  I am almost certain that it is the same thistle used to make my favorite Spanish cheeses, the Torta del Casar (<a href="https://www.tortadelcasar.org/ingles.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.tortadelcasar.org/ingles.html</a>) as well as the Torta from the neighboring village of  La Serena (<a href="https://www.tortaserena.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.tortaserena.com/</a>).  At the end of my trip, I stopped by Formatgeria La Seu in Barcelona (a great champion of Spanish farmhouse cheeses: <a href="https://www.formatgerialaseu.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.formatgerialaseu.com/</a>) where the owner Katherine showed me her stash of dried thistle.  We both agreed that it must be the same thistle.  Nowdays, however, most Moroccan mehlabas simply use an enzyme/microprotease in the form of a pill called asproya (marked &#8220;caille lait&#8221; milk curdler) that could easily be bought (for 1 dh) for home use from any corner store.  A pill curdles one liter of milk (I was told).</p>
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<p>RST</p>
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		By: Pia Mac		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pia Mac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The vegetable colors are so pretty!  And as for the cardoons, the first time I ever saw them was in a book from Time-Life&#039;s The Good Cook series.  Local growers should really look into these special vegs!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The vegetable colors are so pretty!  And as for the cardoons, the first time I ever saw them was in a book from Time-Life&#8217;s The Good Cook series.  Local growers should really look into these special vegs!</p>
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		By: Gej		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gej]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting post. Also found this link through the Specialty Produce Fan Page in FaceBook. Found out, for example,  that cardoons can take the place of rennet in making cheese ( not with cow&#039;s milk though). 

https://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=102792599607&#038;h=IiQOm&#038;u=GO2J_&#038;ref=nf]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post. Also found this link through the Specialty Produce Fan Page in FaceBook. Found out, for example,  that cardoons can take the place of rennet in making cheese ( not with cow&#8217;s milk though). </p>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=102792599607&#038;h=IiQOm&#038;u=GO2J_&#038;ref=nf" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=102792599607&#038;h=IiQOm&#038;u=GO2J_&#038;ref=nf</a></p>
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		By: RST		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RST]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MM,
It&#039;s been a very busy and stressful year.

The only place in Chicago to buy top-quality cardoons in very very late winter (in weeks leading up to Easter) is AFAIK Caputos, which is an old Italian supermarket now serving a broad multi-ethnic clientele.  (I have also seen it intermittently during same season at Andy&#039;s Fruit Ranch in Albany Park).

It is an ancient and a quintessential Mediterrean vegetable and wonderful recipes for it could be found in many old-fashioned Italian cookbooks. I think Mario Batali might even have a couple of attractive, updated ones in his volumes.  After school, when I first backpacked through Spain years ago, I ate a stunning meal in delightful Cuenca which included a marvellous morteruelo (a kind of pate of diff game meats ground together: hare, venison etc) plus &quot;setas con cardo&quot; (wild mushrooms cooked with cardoons/thistle).  A quick google just now on search words &quot;cardo recetas&quot; yielded many intriguing Spanish recipes using this veg.

The Maghrebi word for cardoons is I think kharchouf which is confusing bec one would think THAT sounded more like &quot;artichokes&quot; (which is also a Cynara, but is called kok beldi in Morocco).  I think this tagine is usually made with veal, although Tassili makes it to great effect using high-quality beef.  A few slivers of home-made preserved lemon is essential to give the tagine that unmistakeable piquant je ne sais quoi.  Quick google on &quot;tajine aux cardons&quot; might give you a good headstart on a reliable recipe.  

Say hi to Mailin for me.
Richard]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MM,<br />
It&#8217;s been a very busy and stressful year.</p>
<p>The only place in Chicago to buy top-quality cardoons in very very late winter (in weeks leading up to Easter) is AFAIK Caputos, which is an old Italian supermarket now serving a broad multi-ethnic clientele.  (I have also seen it intermittently during same season at Andy&#8217;s Fruit Ranch in Albany Park).</p>
<p>It is an ancient and a quintessential Mediterrean vegetable and wonderful recipes for it could be found in many old-fashioned Italian cookbooks. I think Mario Batali might even have a couple of attractive, updated ones in his volumes.  After school, when I first backpacked through Spain years ago, I ate a stunning meal in delightful Cuenca which included a marvellous morteruelo (a kind of pate of diff game meats ground together: hare, venison etc) plus &#8220;setas con cardo&#8221; (wild mushrooms cooked with cardoons/thistle).  A quick google just now on search words &#8220;cardo recetas&#8221; yielded many intriguing Spanish recipes using this veg.</p>
<p>The Maghrebi word for cardoons is I think kharchouf which is confusing bec one would think THAT sounded more like &#8220;artichokes&#8221; (which is also a Cynara, but is called kok beldi in Morocco).  I think this tagine is usually made with veal, although Tassili makes it to great effect using high-quality beef.  A few slivers of home-made preserved lemon is essential to give the tagine that unmistakeable piquant je ne sais quoi.  Quick google on &#8220;tajine aux cardons&#8221; might give you a good headstart on a reliable recipe.  </p>
<p>Say hi to Mailin for me.<br />
Richard</p>
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		By: Maria Clara		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maria Clara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dizon Farms has been around for ages.  Their Suha/Pomelo is one of the best and they are all over the archipelago.  Thank you Dizon Farms for cultivating these known Western veggies to our tropical paradise for the locals, visiting or planning to move back to Mother Land after been gone for awhile to savor and enjoy these familiar veggies to her sons and daughters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dizon Farms has been around for ages.  Their Suha/Pomelo is one of the best and they are all over the archipelago.  Thank you Dizon Farms for cultivating these known Western veggies to our tropical paradise for the locals, visiting or planning to move back to Mother Land after been gone for awhile to savor and enjoy these familiar veggies to her sons and daughters.</p>
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		By: Marketman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marketman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lilibeth and dragon, that is GOOD to know, particularly for Filipinos in cities where traditional sinigang ingredients may be hard to find! Thanks!  RST, nice to hear from you, it&#039;s been a while.  And yes, we have a great tagine so your suggestion is appreciated... will try and hunt down a recipe including or featuring cardoons.  kurzhaar, I do believe I have a black thumb, or more frankly, a LAZY one, BUT I have encouraged crew in our Cebu office (down south where I visit 6-8 days a month) to start a vegetable garden... more on that soon.  As for the cardoons, no, I just got stems, not the roots...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lilibeth and dragon, that is GOOD to know, particularly for Filipinos in cities where traditional sinigang ingredients may be hard to find! Thanks!  RST, nice to hear from you, it&#8217;s been a while.  And yes, we have a great tagine so your suggestion is appreciated&#8230; will try and hunt down a recipe including or featuring cardoons.  kurzhaar, I do believe I have a black thumb, or more frankly, a LAZY one, BUT I have encouraged crew in our Cebu office (down south where I visit 6-8 days a month) to start a vegetable garden&#8230; more on that soon.  As for the cardoons, no, I just got stems, not the roots&#8230;</p>
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		By: Lilibeth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lilibeth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I use swiss chard and celery root for sinigang. It is so delicious! I tried this from a Filipina acquaintance and it sure tastes a lot better than the usual Filipino vegetables we put in the sinigang and I have stuck to this recipe eversince because it just makes the sinigang broth so full of flavor!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use swiss chard and celery root for sinigang. It is so delicious! I tried this from a Filipina acquaintance and it sure tastes a lot better than the usual Filipino vegetables we put in the sinigang and I have stuck to this recipe eversince because it just makes the sinigang broth so full of flavor!</p>
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		By: RST		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RST]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MM,
Isn&#039;t there a tagine post (or several) somewhere in the archives?  Cardoons in a tagine is an incomparable treat.  Every spring, when cardoons become available here in Chicago, I make sure to visit a local Algerian cafe (Tassili) for this once-a-year-for-us pleasure.
RST]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MM,<br />
Isn&#8217;t there a tagine post (or several) somewhere in the archives?  Cardoons in a tagine is an incomparable treat.  Every spring, when cardoons become available here in Chicago, I make sure to visit a local Algerian cafe (Tassili) for this once-a-year-for-us pleasure.<br />
RST</p>
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