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		By: udo gangl		</title>
		<link>https://www.marketmanila.com/archives/seriously-how-low-can-we-go#comment-704613</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[Rubbish/Junk/Littering: for me as a foreigner who is visiting the Philippines regularly im always quite surprised how dirty it is everwhere, which i think is mostly because of bad or no education for enviroment at all. Of couse we do have enough stupid people over here in my country as well who do not care at all - but at least not so many and a complete different structure as well.
Of course we do not have so many homeless and so poor people overall as well and that is what strucks me most when visiting (mostly Manila) that the poor people who live on the streets just dump everything just around them and live there … which i simply can´t understand. 
I hardly can´t remember having seen a rubbish bin anywhere on the streets - which would at least provide a place to throw things, wheter if people would then use it or not.
I also can´t remember having seen a garbage collection car moving around and emptying this not available bins…

Children (of the poor): the comment of Charlie above is obviously completely correct - thousend of (very) poor people and even more children. It really seems that they don´t have anything else to do then to f… and get more children - which then have to be fed and educated and and and …

Business/willingness to do: Compared to other SE Asian countries (mostly Indonesia and Vietnam) i hardly see any efforts to do anything. What i mostly hear from various suppliers and others is &quot;sorry Sir, not possible&quot;… So my general idea of the Philippine &quot;willigness to do&quot; is that it doesn´t exist. (Of course not with everyone - otherwise i wouldn´t and couldn´t do business here at all). 
I remember 1 or 2 years ago where the first big Cruise ship anchored in the bay and this was something i saw in news and papers many times … Wow, the first time. There are so many phantastic islands and places to visit and there are (for example) no Cruise ships planning to go there. Out of many reasons of course but still that is bad because it would bring at least some tourist and money.

Wether if its corruption, policy, no willingness to do, general mis- or noneducation or whatever - over the past 15 years im going to the Philippines (but probably lasting for much longer) it´s going down in my eyes, and that is very sad as i love the country, the people and the food ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rubbish/Junk/Littering: for me as a foreigner who is visiting the Philippines regularly im always quite surprised how dirty it is everwhere, which i think is mostly because of bad or no education for enviroment at all. Of couse we do have enough stupid people over here in my country as well who do not care at all &#8211; but at least not so many and a complete different structure as well.<br />
Of course we do not have so many homeless and so poor people overall as well and that is what strucks me most when visiting (mostly Manila) that the poor people who live on the streets just dump everything just around them and live there … which i simply can´t understand.<br />
I hardly can´t remember having seen a rubbish bin anywhere on the streets &#8211; which would at least provide a place to throw things, wheter if people would then use it or not.<br />
I also can´t remember having seen a garbage collection car moving around and emptying this not available bins…</p>
<p>Children (of the poor): the comment of Charlie above is obviously completely correct &#8211; thousend of (very) poor people and even more children. It really seems that they don´t have anything else to do then to f… and get more children &#8211; which then have to be fed and educated and and and …</p>
<p>Business/willingness to do: Compared to other SE Asian countries (mostly Indonesia and Vietnam) i hardly see any efforts to do anything. What i mostly hear from various suppliers and others is &#8220;sorry Sir, not possible&#8221;… So my general idea of the Philippine &#8220;willigness to do&#8221; is that it doesn´t exist. (Of course not with everyone &#8211; otherwise i wouldn´t and couldn´t do business here at all).<br />
I remember 1 or 2 years ago where the first big Cruise ship anchored in the bay and this was something i saw in news and papers many times … Wow, the first time. There are so many phantastic islands and places to visit and there are (for example) no Cruise ships planning to go there. Out of many reasons of course but still that is bad because it would bring at least some tourist and money.</p>
<p>Wether if its corruption, policy, no willingness to do, general mis- or noneducation or whatever &#8211; over the past 15 years im going to the Philippines (but probably lasting for much longer) it´s going down in my eyes, and that is very sad as i love the country, the people and the food &#8230;</p>
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		By: Robert Dayton		</title>
		<link>https://www.marketmanila.com/archives/seriously-how-low-can-we-go#comment-698272</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2015 18:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If it were up to Filipino Heart, Spirit and Ingenuity, this place would rival Europe and America. It would have no equal. You people have no idea what you are capable of.

Unfortunately there is Filipino Crabs, Corruption and Pride that keeps you down. :( I hate to see it, but its true. Couple that with the lack of Rule of Law here and this place suffers. 

Still, I love it here. Wouldn&#039;t want to be anywhere else. The Philippines remains the best place to have a family.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it were up to Filipino Heart, Spirit and Ingenuity, this place would rival Europe and America. It would have no equal. You people have no idea what you are capable of.</p>
<p>Unfortunately there is Filipino Crabs, Corruption and Pride that keeps you down. :( I hate to see it, but its true. Couple that with the lack of Rule of Law here and this place suffers. </p>
<p>Still, I love it here. Wouldn&#8217;t want to be anywhere else. The Philippines remains the best place to have a family.</p>
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		By: Charlie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2015 16:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MM- I&#039;m reminded of a story when I was in Santorini about 4 years ago.  I was getting my haircut and the woman hairdresser told me she once asked her mother why she continued to have more and more children when she couldn&#039;t support the children she already had.  Her mother&#039;s response was &quot; because there&#039;s nothing else to do here!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MM- I&#8217;m reminded of a story when I was in Santorini about 4 years ago.  I was getting my haircut and the woman hairdresser told me she once asked her mother why she continued to have more and more children when she couldn&#8217;t support the children she already had.  Her mother&#8217;s response was &#8221; because there&#8217;s nothing else to do here!&#8221;</p>
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		By: Mindy		</title>
		<link>https://www.marketmanila.com/archives/seriously-how-low-can-we-go#comment-696394</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2015 16:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I heard Sen. Tito Sotto has a problem with the pope mentioning rabbits in that context. Puhleeesseee.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard Sen. Tito Sotto has a problem with the pope mentioning rabbits in that context. Puhleeesseee.</p>
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		By: Marketman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2015 03:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Thank you Pope Francis for finally saying it on behalf of the Church -- DON&#039;T BREED LIKE RABBITS.  Responsible parenthood.  Only have as many as you can raise with a proper roof over their head, sufficient nutrition, education and health care.  Thank God.&lt;/strong&gt;

And where are those folks now that kept bashing me over the head for mentioning population size/growth as one of the key issues everyone needs to address??!?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Thank you Pope Francis for finally saying it on behalf of the Church &#8212; DON&#8217;T BREED LIKE RABBITS.  Responsible parenthood.  Only have as many as you can raise with a proper roof over their head, sufficient nutrition, education and health care.  Thank God.</strong></p>
<p>And where are those folks now that kept bashing me over the head for mentioning population size/growth as one of the key issues everyone needs to address??!?</p>
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		By: Byck Yor		</title>
		<link>https://www.marketmanila.com/archives/seriously-how-low-can-we-go#comment-696373</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Byck Yor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2015 00:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The truly poor are those who cannot see beyond numbers.  After all faith, hope, love cannot be measured.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truly poor are those who cannot see beyond numbers.  After all faith, hope, love cannot be measured.</p>
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		By: Marketman		</title>
		<link>https://www.marketmanila.com/archives/seriously-how-low-can-we-go#comment-696349</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ntgerald, here&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/popefrancis/story/409969/analysis-how-many-people-really-turned-up-for-pope-francis-luneta-mass&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a good take on crowd estimate&lt;/a&gt;... given the article and reasonable adjustments for open spaces from photos, seated areas, street routes, etc. I would say a better and more realistic and HONEST not EXAGGERATED estimate is roughly 3-4 million at luneta AND the entire route taken.  Not the 6 million for the Luneta mass as estimated.  

Besides, with an OFFICIAL 2010 census counting 11.8 million people in Metro Manila, I would find it hard to believe that 1 out of every 2 people were at Luneta last Sunday, even including tourists and imports. 

Mind you, 3-4 million is still an astounding figure, and befitting of a Pope who does seem to be amongst the most likable and respected in recent times.  But I do like some logical accuracy when it comes to numbers.  This article claims &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.interaksyon.com/article/103339/138-tons-of-garbage-collected-in-luneta-hours-after-pope-urged-pinoys-to-take-care-of-environment&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;138 tons of garbage&lt;/a&gt; at Luneta after that same mass. Wow.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ntgerald, here&#8217;s <a href="https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/popefrancis/story/409969/analysis-how-many-people-really-turned-up-for-pope-francis-luneta-mass" rel="nofollow">a good take on crowd estimate</a>&#8230; given the article and reasonable adjustments for open spaces from photos, seated areas, street routes, etc. I would say a better and more realistic and HONEST not EXAGGERATED estimate is roughly 3-4 million at luneta AND the entire route taken.  Not the 6 million for the Luneta mass as estimated.  </p>
<p>Besides, with an OFFICIAL 2010 census counting 11.8 million people in Metro Manila, I would find it hard to believe that 1 out of every 2 people were at Luneta last Sunday, even including tourists and imports. </p>
<p>Mind you, 3-4 million is still an astounding figure, and befitting of a Pope who does seem to be amongst the most likable and respected in recent times.  But I do like some logical accuracy when it comes to numbers.  This article claims <a href="https://www.interaksyon.com/article/103339/138-tons-of-garbage-collected-in-luneta-hours-after-pope-urged-pinoys-to-take-care-of-environment" rel="nofollow">138 tons of garbage</a> at Luneta after that same mass. Wow.</p>
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		By: Charlie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2015 04:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MM- big fan .  American with filipina wife.  So I read your post and then go to the Daily Inquirer web page today and - -headline- the pope coming to the philippines for four days was a miracle.  Really, I mean really?  A miracle?  This is a guy who has and is bankrupting your country and his getting on a plane and coming to manila is a miracle?  Really?  Fouled up priorities that explains all the problems afflicting your country.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MM- big fan .  American with filipina wife.  So I read your post and then go to the Daily Inquirer web page today and &#8211; -headline- the pope coming to the philippines for four days was a miracle.  Really, I mean really?  A miracle?  This is a guy who has and is bankrupting your country and his getting on a plane and coming to manila is a miracle?  Really?  Fouled up priorities that explains all the problems afflicting your country.</p>
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		By: jdawgg		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2015 20:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Seriously LOW, a typical Pilipino mentality like some of my relatives up north. When expecting a company from Manila or Overseas.  Let&#039;s do some extra cleaning, fix the fence and oh this I don&#039;t get, RELATIVES that haven&#039;t spoken for years all of a sudden are best of friends WTF!!! Can&#039;t this be done without someone visiting?  Wifey and I planned to retire in PI when we get to the ripe old age but, somehow we are undecided because of the current situation happening in Philippines,  seems like everyone in general are Evil in that part of the world. Hence just base on the Pinoy mentality why would one vote for a corrupt politician.  How in the world this Mr. THICK FACE joseph Estrada became a mayor of Manila?  Is this the message we are telling the youth of the future that it&#039;s ok to be a womanizer, a theft, an alcoholic, a gambler and a pro-narcotic that one day you&#039;ll become a president of the country.  What kind of a Pilipino are we in general?  So long as we could put food on the table today (to the courtesy of that corrupt politician) forget about tomorrow, next week, month or next year.  Are we that Narrow Minded????  Enlightened me please.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously LOW, a typical Pilipino mentality like some of my relatives up north. When expecting a company from Manila or Overseas.  Let&#8217;s do some extra cleaning, fix the fence and oh this I don&#8217;t get, RELATIVES that haven&#8217;t spoken for years all of a sudden are best of friends WTF!!! Can&#8217;t this be done without someone visiting?  Wifey and I planned to retire in PI when we get to the ripe old age but, somehow we are undecided because of the current situation happening in Philippines,  seems like everyone in general are Evil in that part of the world. Hence just base on the Pinoy mentality why would one vote for a corrupt politician.  How in the world this Mr. THICK FACE joseph Estrada became a mayor of Manila?  Is this the message we are telling the youth of the future that it&#8217;s ok to be a womanizer, a theft, an alcoholic, a gambler and a pro-narcotic that one day you&#8217;ll become a president of the country.  What kind of a Pilipino are we in general?  So long as we could put food on the table today (to the courtesy of that corrupt politician) forget about tomorrow, next week, month or next year.  Are we that Narrow Minded????  Enlightened me please&#8230;..</p>
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		By: tina vitas		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2015 09:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[		Shiko-Chan, considering how many millions of people were camping out on the streets with not that many portalets &#038; garbage cans in sight, it&#039;s a vast improvement. I have high standards and will be first to criticize, but I give credit when I see some small improvements. This is what I observed near SM MOA Arena area where I was..... The Filipino people were pretty well behaved and clean, comparatively speaking! Am saying in relative terms, not absolute terms. There was still pushing &amp; shoving and garbage left behind. The problem is this behavior of being disciplined/clean in public spaces is not an everyday thing. Parang pakitang tao lang dahil nandito yung Pope. It shouldn&#039;t be like that!!!		]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>		Shiko-Chan, considering how many millions of people were camping out on the streets with not that many portalets &amp; garbage cans in sight, it&#8217;s a vast improvement. I have high standards and will be first to criticize, but I give credit when I see some small improvements. This is what I observed near SM MOA Arena area where I was&#8230;.. The Filipino people were pretty well behaved and clean, comparatively speaking! Am saying in relative terms, not absolute terms. There was still pushing &#038; shoving and garbage left behind. The problem is this behavior of being disciplined/clean in public spaces is not an everyday thing. Parang pakitang tao lang dahil nandito yung Pope. It shouldn&#8217;t be like that!!!		</p>
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