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		By: Ging		</title>
		<link>https://www.marketmanila.com/archives/the-chainsaw-visual#comment-356830</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[PS Coco lumber often come from mature trees that are no longer productive. That&#039;s how useful the coconut tree is. From early age till its death, it provides the farmer a source of income.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS Coco lumber often come from mature trees that are no longer productive. That&#8217;s how useful the coconut tree is. From early age till its death, it provides the farmer a source of income.</p>
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		By: Ging		</title>
		<link>https://www.marketmanila.com/archives/the-chainsaw-visual#comment-356827</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[		Cutting of hardwoods like narra, mahogany and the like NEED a permit. The rest like  Malunggay, mangga, bamboo DO NOT need a permit. Reason: Hardwoods need more than 50 years to grow so cutting down trees lesser than that age is illegal. And cutting down hardwoods of any age would constitute logging hence the permit.

As for the coconut tree, YES, a permit is NEEDED because the coconut is considered the life of the farmer. You cut it down, you are cutting down the farmer&#039;s source of income. Aside from getting a permit, if the trees were planted or cared for by the tenant, you also have to pay the tenant an amount equivalent to the income that the trees would have earned for the tenant during the tree&#039;s lifetime- and that would include income from coconuts, leaves, tuba, etc.	

Cutting down bananas does not require a permit a	nd is actually recommended to assure that a healthy batch of trees will grow from the parent stock. However, if the bananas were planted by tenants on YOUR property, in effect, they own the banana trees and if you want to cut them down, you have to recompense the tenant for the income lost as result. That would constitute about 5 years worth of bananas because parent stocks are often changed every 5-7 years.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>		Cutting of hardwoods like narra, mahogany and the like NEED a permit. The rest like  Malunggay, mangga, bamboo DO NOT need a permit. Reason: Hardwoods need more than 50 years to grow so cutting down trees lesser than that age is illegal. And cutting down hardwoods of any age would constitute logging hence the permit.</p>
<p>As for the coconut tree, YES, a permit is NEEDED because the coconut is considered the life of the farmer. You cut it down, you are cutting down the farmer&#8217;s source of income. Aside from getting a permit, if the trees were planted or cared for by the tenant, you also have to pay the tenant an amount equivalent to the income that the trees would have earned for the tenant during the tree&#8217;s lifetime- and that would include income from coconuts, leaves, tuba, etc.	</p>
<p>Cutting down bananas does not require a permit a	nd is actually recommended to assure that a healthy batch of trees will grow from the parent stock. However, if the bananas were planted by tenants on YOUR property, in effect, they own the banana trees and if you want to cut them down, you have to recompense the tenant for the income lost as result. That would constitute about 5 years worth of bananas because parent stocks are often changed every 5-7 years.</p>
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		By: EbbaBlue		</title>
		<link>https://www.marketmanila.com/archives/the-chainsaw-visual#comment-356601</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 13:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When I was in Quezon last May, nagpa-putol ako ng  kawayan for personal use, yung iba sa lot ng pinsan ko, yung iba binili namin sa neighbors, no problem sa pag-cut, no need for permit, eh kalapit bahay lang namin ang barangay captain eh.  Pero yung narra at molave, talagang kailangan.  

About trimming naman, pag-sarili mo at nasa property na kinatatayuan ng bahay mo, hindi na rin kailangan, especially for safety reason.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was in Quezon last May, nagpa-putol ako ng  kawayan for personal use, yung iba sa lot ng pinsan ko, yung iba binili namin sa neighbors, no problem sa pag-cut, no need for permit, eh kalapit bahay lang namin ang barangay captain eh.  Pero yung narra at molave, talagang kailangan.  </p>
<p>About trimming naman, pag-sarili mo at nasa property na kinatatayuan ng bahay mo, hindi na rin kailangan, especially for safety reason.</p>
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		By: Marketman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Okay, folks, I did some basic on line research.  I have found several laws related to CUTTING down trees, either on public property or private property.  But they all specifically mention cutting down or in effect, killing the tree.  I have found no law about trimming trees that requires a DENR permit to cut branches and limbs... if anyone knows of a specific law, please leave me a comment...

And while we are on the subject.  I wonder if you need a DENR permit to cut down a stand of bamboo &quot;trees&quot;... because technically, bamboo is a grass, not a tree.  Or what about cutting down banana trees?  They are technically herbs, not trees... :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, folks, I did some basic on line research.  I have found several laws related to CUTTING down trees, either on public property or private property.  But they all specifically mention cutting down or in effect, killing the tree.  I have found no law about trimming trees that requires a DENR permit to cut branches and limbs&#8230; if anyone knows of a specific law, please leave me a comment&#8230;</p>
<p>And while we are on the subject.  I wonder if you need a DENR permit to cut down a stand of bamboo &#8220;trees&#8221;&#8230; because technically, bamboo is a grass, not a tree.  Or what about cutting down banana trees?  They are technically herbs, not trees&#8230; :)</p>
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		By: EbbaBlue		</title>
		<link>https://www.marketmanila.com/archives/the-chainsaw-visual#comment-356583</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have a small farm in Quezon Province, real deep into the woods;  did not have tenant for years and so wild trees grew up big and tall .  My cousin said its a soft kind of wood, but can still be use for sidings, he said if I need it for future house building, I have to tell him in advance so he can get a permit to cut it, which can be a lengthy process.  He said it shouldn&#039;t be a problem because it is not a native tree.  With coconut, hindi daw kailangan &quot;magpasabi&quot; kasi pangkaraniwan lang yon duon.

He added that it is hard to discreetly cut a hardwood, kasi sa ingay pa lang ng chainsaw mo, nariyan na yung mga &quot;agents&quot; hahanapan ka ng permit agad.  Pag-nakitaan ka rin na nag-ta-transport ng kahoy from the barrio to the town proper, pinatitigil ka sa highway and again they check your permit.  

My cousin was not sure kung alam daw nitong mga checker kung tama or valid yung papers na hawak mo, eh kung ipeke-daw kaya?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a small farm in Quezon Province, real deep into the woods;  did not have tenant for years and so wild trees grew up big and tall .  My cousin said its a soft kind of wood, but can still be use for sidings, he said if I need it for future house building, I have to tell him in advance so he can get a permit to cut it, which can be a lengthy process.  He said it shouldn&#8217;t be a problem because it is not a native tree.  With coconut, hindi daw kailangan &#8220;magpasabi&#8221; kasi pangkaraniwan lang yon duon.</p>
<p>He added that it is hard to discreetly cut a hardwood, kasi sa ingay pa lang ng chainsaw mo, nariyan na yung mga &#8220;agents&#8221; hahanapan ka ng permit agad.  Pag-nakitaan ka rin na nag-ta-transport ng kahoy from the barrio to the town proper, pinatitigil ka sa highway and again they check your permit.  </p>
<p>My cousin was not sure kung alam daw nitong mga checker kung tama or valid yung papers na hawak mo, eh kung ipeke-daw kaya?</p>
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		By: Camille		</title>
		<link>https://www.marketmanila.com/archives/the-chainsaw-visual#comment-356569</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oops sorry got cut off.iPod got low battery wasn&#039;t able to edit in time.

Continuing from previous message. Also sometimes doing the right thing isn&#039;t always easy. From experience in Philippines , any government-related paper work takes a long time, lots of run arounds, money and waiting time. At the end maybe just maybe they will give you the &quot;go&quot; to watever it is you&#039;re asking for such as permits. It puts people off most of the time. Sorry sounds harsh but it&#039;s true.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops sorry got cut off.iPod got low battery wasn&#8217;t able to edit in time.</p>
<p>Continuing from previous message. Also sometimes doing the right thing isn&#8217;t always easy. From experience in Philippines , any government-related paper work takes a long time, lots of run arounds, money and waiting time. At the end maybe just maybe they will give you the &#8220;go&#8221; to watever it is you&#8217;re asking for such as permits. It puts people off most of the time. Sorry sounds harsh but it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		By: Camille		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here in New Zealand u can&#039;t can&#039;t down native trees - there&#039;s a list of trees protected. If you want to trim the native trees, you need to get permit  and have a very good reason why it needs trimming such as safety issues or  it&#039;s on the way of the power line. They are very strict about it. 

I&#039;m quite surprised about the law in Philippines about chopping down trees. Ive never heard of it before. My guess is, it&#039;s always been there but not really put in practice and advertise well enough maybe??]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in New Zealand u can&#8217;t can&#8217;t down native trees &#8211; there&#8217;s a list of trees protected. If you want to trim the native trees, you need to get permit  and have a very good reason why it needs trimming such as safety issues or  it&#8217;s on the way of the power line. They are very strict about it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m quite surprised about the law in Philippines about chopping down trees. Ive never heard of it before. My guess is, it&#8217;s always been there but not really put in practice and advertise well enough maybe??</p>
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		By: miles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 06:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[hi mm. my mother in law has the same dilemma as she has a kamagong tree in her backyard that is 16 years old and has grown so big that the roots have made inroads under the paving and the property wall. she had to go to denr for a permit to cut it down and got caught up in the backlash after the sm incident. haaay bureacrats who are are reactive and not proactive should not be in office.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi mm. my mother in law has the same dilemma as she has a kamagong tree in her backyard that is 16 years old and has grown so big that the roots have made inroads under the paving and the property wall. she had to go to denr for a permit to cut it down and got caught up in the backlash after the sm incident. haaay bureacrats who are are reactive and not proactive should not be in office.</p>
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		By: gensanite		</title>
		<link>https://www.marketmanila.com/archives/the-chainsaw-visual#comment-356442</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 01:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[i was in carmen, agusan last week, and was staying at a house near the highway... and for two days, i saw truckloads upon truckloads of logs - how the heck did they get permits for those logs?! the trucks were as big as those who are transpoting sugarcanes in quezon, bukidnon... and trimming branch of a tree in your property to avoid the damage to electric lines and phone lines would require a permit from denr?! mind-boggling!!! XD]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was in carmen, agusan last week, and was staying at a house near the highway&#8230; and for two days, i saw truckloads upon truckloads of logs &#8211; how the heck did they get permits for those logs?! the trucks were as big as those who are transpoting sugarcanes in quezon, bukidnon&#8230; and trimming branch of a tree in your property to avoid the damage to electric lines and phone lines would require a permit from denr?! mind-boggling!!! XD</p>
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		By: Ariel Nievera		</title>
		<link>https://www.marketmanila.com/archives/the-chainsaw-visual#comment-356368</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MM I am watching a watching the gma show where you acupuncture the lechon,  very informative, nagutom ako]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MM I am watching a watching the gma show where you acupuncture the lechon,  very informative, nagutom ako</p>
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