04 Mar2010

Most readers would have missed this comment in the previous post on the cinnamon rolls recipe, from a reader named “Karen Espinosa”:

“I was a bit cross for only seeing this,actually i was looking for a reciepy of home made mango ice cream but, this page is only all about post, i wish you would improve your website so many more people would be interested in this website, you never know this website might be a popular website if you will improve it,that is all i can say for now.”

So while Sister has very graciously written up a mango ice cream recipe in her response (which regular readers may read with the phrase “dripping with sarcasm” in mind), this is a more classic Marketman response. So, Ms. Espinosa, kindly read on.

1. Marketmanila.com has over 800+ recipes in its archives, many if not most of them my own, though inspired by many different sources, and all are provided free of charge to anyone who cares to visit the site. In addition there are at least 1,600 other posts on produce, ingredients, flowers, restaurants, etc. also provided totally free of charge and without advertising on the site. So I am not sure why you are under the impression that there are no recipes on this blog. But worse, if you had simply let your fingers do some walking instead of immediately typing out what is the comment equivalent of what I would call verbal diarrhoea, you would have EASILY found the following using the search function and typing in “mango ice cream”:

a. If you typed in “mango ice cream” into the search function of the site, you would have been directed to this page, and if you can read, you would have noticed that the THIRD post is entitled Mango Ice Cream a la Marketman, and if you went to that post, it describes the process, though leaves out a detailed recipe as I used the recipe that came with the White Mountain Ice Cream Maker. If you had an ice cream maker, you could simply follow a recipe for peach ice cream and change mangoes for peaches, but maybe that is too much for you to handle. So the point is, there is in fact a post related to Mango Ice Cream.

b. Now if you don’t have a commercial or home ice cream maker (all of which would have probably come with a fruit ice cream recipe), then you could have read down further in the search results to just the SEVENTH entry, and would have found this incredibly easy to make mango sorbet a la marketman. And you would have a wonderful fresh mango dessert, no expensive machinery required.

c. If still curious, you might have found your way to these wonderful mango and blackberry popsicles that the Kid made when she was about 9 years old, maybe more your speed.

But worse, had you just googled “mango ice cream”, there are dozens of results that would have easily helped you in your quest, so being irate, cross or annoyed is a bit absurd, don’t you think? And cross enough to leave a dumb comment? After a bit of internet research, here are a few facts for you to consider, because while I agree one can always improve on something, I have no desire to improve the website if only to attract more readers of your ilk. Period.

2. Marketmanila.com is five years old, and attracts over 8,000 different visitors a day. On average it gets some 550,000+ page views per month. Because it is totally non-commercial in nature, then I have no need to increase my hits or make it look more visited than it really is… so volume of visitors or “popularity” is irrelevant, other than knowing a lot of folks seem to enjoy it, and they add immensely to the site by adding intelligent or amusing or otherwise NON-STUPID or RUDE comments.

But since you bring up the point, I decided to look into some statistics, and here is what I found on Alexa, a fairly well-known traffic tracking company:

Marketmanila is the 88,366th most visited website in the world based on the last three months of traffic, and ranked 1,122 in the Philippines. It is probably one of the top 2 or 3 Filipino food websites or blogs, depending on how you rank them. But more interestingly, I decided to look up some other local websites just to see how marketmanila.com compared and found this:

Summit Media (publishers of Yummy Magazine, Town & Country, and a slew of international magazine names) (summitmedia.com.ph) ranked 165,248 over the same period.
The website of the Philippine Department of Tourism which should be the first stop for millions of tourists to the country every year (tourism.gov.ph) is ranked 297,637.
Nestle Philippines (manufacturers of Nestle Ice Cream and tons of other food products) ranked 337,035.
San Miguel Corporation (makers of Magnolia, beer and dozens of food products) (sanmiguel.com.ph) ranked 470,917.
RFM Foods Corporation (manufacturers of Selecta Ice Cream and lots of other food products) is ranked 3,143,697

As these numbers suggest, the marketmanila.com website is “popular” enough even without your visit(s) or suggested improvements. So, all I can say is that your comment was uninformed, lacked factual basis, and probably indicative of an intellectual laziness that can’t take you through a simple internet search for something you want, need or seek. It was rude, and worst of all, makes you appear less intelligent than you probably really are. In light of that, it might have been simpler to keep your comment to yourself as you have just stepped into a space with several thousand regular readers who now know who is the first nominee for the informal “Fishpan Awards 2010” on marketmanila.com. THEY know it is a dubious distinction.



  1. kate says:

    Seriously, Karen! Amazing stats, MM :)

    Mar 4, 2010 | 11:53 am


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  3. jannah says:

    WOW…. you’re even better than Summit Media!!! Karen dig this…

    Mar 4, 2010 | 12:04 pm

  4. desiree pyun says:

    All I have to say is that I love you marketman! Hahaha…. I really do I love visiting your website (I feel like I “check” it too much… twice maybe 3 times a day? just to see if you posted anything new.). I never really leave a comment, I think this is my second time ever in the years since I “stumbled” into your blog. I was also searching a recipe and google led me here. Since then (whether or not I do try your recipes), I’ve just been a huge fan of yours and your wonderful website (Pardon my gushing… but i just can’t help it.). I hope that you NEVER change the way you run Market Manila because this is one of the reasons why I love “visiting” your website.

    Mar 4, 2010 | 12:04 pm

  5. manilamom says:

    ms espinosa, let’s see you put up a blog and see if it can get half as popular as this one :)

    Mar 4, 2010 | 12:22 pm

  6. Joyce says:

    kapow! and there goes the fishpan hehe. congrats on the fab stats mm!

    Mar 4, 2010 | 12:32 pm

  7. Marketfan says:

    that is all she can say for now and that is all we should ever hear from her

    Mar 4, 2010 | 12:34 pm

  8. kitchen says:

    Lols Hahahahaha! Market Man Ur the Man!!! In Your Face Karen Espinosa!!! kapow!!!

    Mar 4, 2010 | 12:41 pm

  9. peanut says:

    Sorry but what an idiot!Yep deserving of the “Fish Pan Award”Does she even know how to look for whatever it is she’s looking for?Some people!I mean seriously!

    Mar 4, 2010 | 12:55 pm

  10. dodi says:

    Oh wow! Now, I wouldn’t want to be hit…errr..”awarded” with that fishpan, ever! So Karen E., ask someone to teach you how to read blogs first before commenting, LOL! Awesome stats MM! And yes, we all love Sister for that awesome cinnamon roll recipe! And Karen E, “Sister” is not a nun, if you must know.

    Mar 4, 2010 | 12:57 pm

  11. Fran says:

    Nice! I’ll bet that felt good to get off your chest. Too bad we can’t do that kind of thing in person, eh? People find it so easy to hide behind a keyboard — it’s amazing how “Brave” a coward feels clicking away at the keys.

    Mar 4, 2010 | 12:59 pm

  12. Lord says:

    I love your blog. I see that there are thousands who feel the same way. I’m a bit confused though that a reader will become cross over not finding a recipe for mango ice cream. I think she needs more than a recipe … that might require therapy and/or
    even a prescription.

    Mar 4, 2010 | 1:05 pm

  13. jacob's_human says:

    Yey, first fishpan nominee! Just surfaced from the shallow end of the gene pool.

    Mar 4, 2010 | 1:05 pm

  14. Lee says:

    Marketman, long-time reader here. Why keep “making patol” to negative comments by making a whole new post about said comments? You already know that having a comments section on your site opens you up to all kinds of feedback. You handle positive comments modestly well, but seem to invite your readers to descend like a pack of wolves on the rare negative comment. If Karen Espinosa really felt your site was uninformative, chances are she isn’t even coming back to read you singling our her comment. Or maybe you wanted to highlight the site’s accomplishments — in which case, why do it through a fishpan post? These numbers speak for themselves and are well-deserved. So no need to bristle at one or two inane comments, when there are thousands of meaningful ones to focus on.

    Mar 4, 2010 | 1:32 pm

  15. cusinera says:

    ayyy naku…why are there people like this, visitors lang at na kikisilip may patutsada pang iiwan…you know naman Manong MM ur the best, since i’ve found you i’ve never let you go, you’re my inspirasyon sa blog ko miski star ka na, ako nag a-audition pa lang…hehehhehe MORE POWER SA MARKETMANILA!!!!

    Mar 4, 2010 | 1:36 pm

  16. Marketman says:

    Lee, I agree that it’s easier to turn the other cheek most of the time, and I do in fact do that 99% of the time, notice no posts like this for several months since the last one, despite an inane email or two or three DAILY (which typically get zapped, simply ignored, or otherwise meet their demise quietly). But as with all humans, one just feels the need to smack someone back every so often. It is a very natural response. I might even argue a very human one. If anything at all, it is a continuing lesson in internet etiquette for the readership at large, as comments such as the one that spawned this post will probably be permanently recorded on the world wide web. Finally, when it comes down to it, as many have observed before, this is my blog and very much a reflection of how I am in person, albeit a small slice of my day to day life. In real life, when faced with a direct idiotic comment, I do in fact typically answer it with a tough retort along the lines of this post. As for the blog statistics, I hadn’t thought to look up comparisons with other websites until that last comment, though I do keep track of visitors to this particular site, pageviews, topics covered, length of visits, frequency, etc. Oddly, rants such as this one above are amongst the most heavily visited, so I think they are relevant for most of the readership or they would simply ignore these kinds of posts. As for whether Ms. Espinosa reads the reply, I am pretty sure she will, as I sent a copy/link of the post to her at the email address she provided. People need to be responsible for their actions and words, and even a casual comment on a seemingly irrelevant website should be considered with a view to potential consequences, if any.

    In a somewhat tangential discussion but an illustrative example nonetheless, few young folks today (students, new graduates or internet novices) realize that when companies and institutions are screening potential job applicants, they now often check the internet for any traces of information about an applicant, often seeing contents of their facebooks, chat comments, references to the candidate, comments left by a person, etc. on the internet. So great care should be taken to conduct oneself in a manner that would not put themselves in a difficult/questionable/bizarre light. The internet is a great tool, but increasingly misused and abused.

    Some would hope I would simply be able to take the higher road on all of these cases. I know I simply can’t. :)

    Mar 4, 2010 | 1:55 pm

  17. proteinshake says:

    While I agree with Lee, I quite enjoy these MM Rage Attacks, LOL!!! I imagine you coming after this Karen, not with the proverbial rolling pin, but a fishpan in hand ;->

    Mar 4, 2010 | 2:17 pm

  18. Angela says:


    Congratulations on your Fishpan Award, Ms. Espinosa.

    Mar 4, 2010 | 2:26 pm

  19. obot says:

    This is a fo0d blog, and i enjoy waiting for new recipes posted by you MM. And to be h0nest, i als0 am waiting for an additi0n to ur rants and raves secti0n for m0nths n0w. If Lee is a regular visit0r here, he would have kn0wn that u always have a p0int (with relevance) when ‘releasing’

    Mar 4, 2010 | 2:48 pm

  20. Lei says:

    hahahaha!!! just like how one reader pointed it out, love it when sister gave her remark, “Are you still following me or have you gone to Magnolia to purchase some mango ice cream?”. so very smart of sister to come up with such a witty comment for ms karen’s somewhat dimwit/illogical display of tantrum when she cannot find the recipe she is looking for even if the recipe can be easily found.

    i agree with MM that people should be more responsible in using the internet, especially since she was leaving her whole name for the whole world to see and read about.

    Mar 4, 2010 | 2:51 pm

  21. junb says:

    Fishpan is a yearly affair on MarketManila so having a regular nominee is a must :) …Enjoy !

    Mar 4, 2010 | 2:52 pm

  22. i love sta.rosa says:

    MM, bati tayo hehehehhe..takot na siguro si karen makita ka hahahhaha.. basta ako taga luto lng ako ng magugustuhan ko recipe mula sayo kapag kayo ko iluto.. hehehhe God Bless!…
    to be honest enough, sa sobra dami ng bisita ni MM pati nga blogs ko tuloy nabibisita ng mga bisita ni MM… thanks MM for that….

    Mar 4, 2010 | 3:29 pm

  23. chip says:

    Hmmm, I don’t know MM, but for me, the comment was just too lame to deserve any distinction- dubious or not =) An awardee’s comment should have the right mix of stupidity and vileness, which serves to highlight the lack of common sense even more. The most memorable is still the original, but last year’s awardee from Los Banos was equally entertaining. Next nominee please….

    Mar 4, 2010 | 3:32 pm

  24. Lilibeth says:

    Very well said Marketman and yes this is your blog, so you are free to express yourself in any manner you want. There are rude people who need to be put in their proper place because it is annoying. I have visited other food blogs and they have advertisements while yours is not being done for profit but to help us have access to your wonderful recipes and I have tried a lot of them and they are definitely keepers, in fact, when I cook a dish from your blog, my kids would always say: “This tastes good, Mommy. It must be from Marketman.” :)

    Mar 4, 2010 | 3:34 pm

  25. joan says:

    At the end of the day MM, it is still YOUR blog and you have EVERY RIGHT to vent/rant/respond in any way you feel like, which we your readers may agree or disagree with. And this is what’s great about your blog, it’s a community of INTELLIGENT readers who exchange ideas, comments, feelings (and even friendships!) who do not care whether your blog is number 1 or 1,000,000. We like what you share, we share what we can, we laugh, we get involved, because we CHOOSE to. We don’t gang up on negative commenters because we’re a pack of mindless zombies, we rant with you because we FEEL THE SAME WAY you do! If the congressional sessions were as alive as this blog, the Philippines would be the richest country in the world. So MM, thank youfor giving us Market Manila and we hope (or maybe not) to have more fishpan nominees for 2010. Congratulations Ms. Espinosa.

    Mar 4, 2010 | 3:47 pm

  26. loveTOeat says:

    totally agree that this is MM’s blog and only MM do whatever he wants with it… if a reader isn’t happy with it, or don’t find it informative, blahblah, then stop visiting the site. period.

    much more people appreciate your site, MM! we can see that it’s a labor of love! kudos!

    Mar 4, 2010 | 4:21 pm

  27. Jack Hammer says:

    Whoa !!!! Sorry MM…but I noticed something in general in the Phils…it is hard for the Filipino people to turn the other cheek…believe me even my Filipina wife does not spare me. However, I have always been a believer in….turn the other cheek…as advised by our Saviour..not once not thrice…but seventy times seven i.e. ad infinitum ….I kid you not…really Good things come from this….Health, Affluence and People willing to jump hoops to help you in this journey, which we call Life. Or else we turn into a Jerk Magnet. Better to be cheerful and centered than angry and out of focus and create disease for our mind and bodies. Cheers for Now !!!

    Mar 4, 2010 | 4:27 pm

  28. erleen says:

    I knew this was coming! So, belat to Karen! :P

    Mar 4, 2010 | 4:34 pm

  29. atbnorge says:

    As I was browsing through the random posts, I saw how many commented on this blog—one—two—perhaps three in 2005. But see how MarketManila has grown to be popular. Readers from all over the world visit this website and these readers are not just the average nincompoop. They are educated professionals; people with taste, and people who want to have integrity in what they read—even yes, on articles about a plate of food. They are also people who would gladly share their knowledge on anything and everything.
    (Si el_jefe, hindi ko na nakikita. Kumusta na kaya siya?)
    But once in a while, there comes the bacteria that destroys the joy of the food…Congratulations Karen Espinosa.

    MM, when I saw the headers, I thought it was a jest. My goodness, a non-food posts! Yehey!!!

    Mar 4, 2010 | 4:40 pm

  30. Larees says:

    I LOVE your blog MM! It’s fun, informative and smart. Great stats too! And I do enjoy the random MM rants. Hehehe!

    Mar 4, 2010 | 4:40 pm

  31. Nicole says:

    you know karen espinosa if you want recipes from Marketman or any other blogger for that matter. you could have ask them nicely and not acted like such a prima dona about it. Where’s your manners?!?

    Mar 4, 2010 | 4:54 pm

  32. atbnorge says:

    Karen wrote, and I quote: “…that is all I can say for now.”

    For now?

    Mukhang babalik pa si Karen for second helpings!

    Mar 4, 2010 | 5:06 pm

  33. Teresa says:

    Hahaha I’m liking what i’m hearing…Love the growl MM..defintely a well earned growl. Making “patol” is not a sign of insecurity. But any tiger lords it all within their territory until outsiders learn how to give due respect… love your site MM.

    Mar 4, 2010 | 5:15 pm

  34. odieacuna says:

    i knew this is coming as soon as i read Ms. Espinosa’s comment :)

    i really love your rants Mr. MM !!

    Mar 4, 2010 | 5:17 pm

  35. arnytan says:

    MM you are entitled to rant bec this is your blog. karen espinosa congrats ha!!

    Mar 4, 2010 | 5:54 pm

  36. scramoodles says:

    I am so loving this. I’m on your boat mister Marketman. Sometimes, it’s not really about taking the higher road or simply ignoring such comments. Sometimes, you just have to drive some sense into them. This way, a lesson is taught, the idiocy of the world is hopefully diminished, and everything else is once again fine with the world.

    I feel your scathing words and biting reason. And even the jerk your eyebrows make as you bury her message deeper into the grave with each grammatical lapse and complete disregard for proper punctuation. Gift her with “Eats, Shoots & Leaves: The Zero Tolerance Approach to Punctuation” while you’re at it, why don’t you? Lols.

    Mar 4, 2010 | 6:04 pm

  37. decembergrl says:

    MM, Ms. Espinosa must have been high on something at the time of her post. :-)
    You “making patol” is quite justifiable as this is a personal blog that only happens to be “the 88,366th most visited website in the world”. So sue you for being generous with your tips and recipes. :-) Marketmanila.com is actually on my bookmark toolbar for easy access to my daily fix.

    BTW, big thanks to Sister for the cinnamon roll recipe.

    More power to you, MM.

    Mar 4, 2010 | 6:05 pm

  38. j. says:

    Huzzah MM!!!

    I agree with scramoodles with the grammar jive she’s got going…I’ve noticed something about some of your detractors, especially fishpan awardees… what’s with the spelling mistakes and grammatical errors, that even a kid with a fifth grade education can point out (I’ve made quite a few errors myself)! We all make them, but for some oddball reason, they tend to be more prevalent in random negative posts… but then I might just be a bit more critical of their posts.

    Mar 4, 2010 | 6:48 pm

  39. atbnorge says:

    May hinala ako kung sino ang second nominee…hahahaha!!!
    Kasi siyempre, may first nominee…then second…then third…They really exist.

    Mar 4, 2010 | 7:01 pm

  40. chinky says:

    Your blog is the easiest to navigate as it isn’t littered with ads and things popping all over the place. I was wondering what Karen E. was talking about. Then my next reaction was “oh, she doesn’t know how to surf the net!”

    Mar 4, 2010 | 7:27 pm

  41. lgc says:

    “People need to be responsible for their actions and words, and even a casual comment on a seemingly irrelevant website should be considered with a view to potential consequences, if any.” You’ve nailed it right here MM.

    And the Fishpan goes to….lolz

    Mar 4, 2010 | 7:33 pm

  42. kit says:

    bwahahahaha!!!! enjoy the wrath of marketman! i really miss this kind of post.
    (sorry mm, i’m under hormonal imbalance right now)

    Mar 4, 2010 | 8:01 pm

  43. kulasa says:

    Congrats Ms. Espinosa, and here’s a yema for you… suck on it.

    Mar 4, 2010 | 8:46 pm

  44. marilen says:

    Rudeness, petulance has no place in this daily conversation. Sharing, conversing civilly, wittily, joyfully, yes. Thank you, MM

    Mar 4, 2010 | 8:58 pm

  45. moni says:

    MM, let me digress. My son and I were at Greenbelt 5 over the weekend and saw a shop selling Philippine t-shirts with one that had a lechon pic and the text, “I love lechon”. I remarked that there should be a t-shirt with “I love Zubuchon” instead. Or is there one already that I’ve missed out?

    Mar 4, 2010 | 9:31 pm

  46. Marketman says:

    moni, I’ve seen that shirt. :) But no, haven’t done a zubuchon one yet…

    Mar 4, 2010 | 9:40 pm

  47. natie says:

    Boiing..big copper fishpan on the head.. I exhale now, since MM has said the last word (s)..

    Mar 4, 2010 | 9:40 pm

  48. edel says:

    speaking of fishpan, i saw one last weekend @ livingwell podium… MM came to mind, hehehe… kidding aside, whenever i need a recipe or i need some inspiration on what dish to cook, i always check this “uninteresting, all-post” website first, allrecipes.com second =)

    Mar 4, 2010 | 9:51 pm

  49. miriam says:

    My oh my, I hate to be in your shoes at this minute, Karen, unless you are in some fantastic part of the world, enjoying your mango ice-cream, and couldn’t care less about your fishpan award.

    MM, you have every right to feel what you’re feeling and to post it. I like your candor and I guess this is why your site is so interesting, among other things, and what keeps us coming back for more. I bet it feels soooo good to let steam out — but you don’t do this often, or do you? I must say that Sister’s style — short, sweet, but packs a punch — is very effective, too. Love this site, can’t get enough of it!

    Mar 4, 2010 | 9:59 pm

  50. ajing says:

    kasi naman, nag nasty comment pa. you didnt have to praise naman this blog, appreciate lang kasi a lot of us do. if you cant write anything nice, eh di tie your hands

    Mar 4, 2010 | 10:19 pm

  51. junb says:

    BTW MM, is the Lee above the same Lee who always have a short but witty comment? He doesn’t sound like he is the famous Lee…or maybe he is just not on his mood today cheers ;)

    Mar 4, 2010 | 10:24 pm

  52. leigh says:

    venting is actually healthy … in any case, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – i adore your blog MM!

    Mar 4, 2010 | 10:31 pm

  53. Anna says:

    I appreciate this site so much I’m surprised you have to give out a Fishpan Award, Mr. MarketMan – and annually, at that! I feel so naive.

    Mar 4, 2010 | 10:39 pm

  54. Divine G. says:

    You really read comments and I really and seriously love the way you answer. Calmly but you can feel the heat that goes with it. Yeah… do not stop from letting this people know what this is all about . I have been with you for years now I don’t even remember the exact time I started reading your website. I just want to thank you again for the things I learned f rom you and everybody . Thank you!!!!

    Mar 4, 2010 | 11:07 pm

  55. rosemarie says:

    Hi, MM- I PERSONALLY DONT WANT TO READ ANYTHING OF KAREN’S ESPINOSA’S COMMENT. The nerve of her. It is your free choice / free will -Karen to enter into MM’s site. You are not in a position to comment but probably say – thank you coz you were entertained / informed of the good things from this site. I dare you to make your own site. And we will see what you can offer to us readers. Hay naku Day, if you have nothing better to say / write- dont be so negative. Its not good for your yin / yang. Thanks MM- I love your site. just dont make patol to these nonsense comments from readers – they try to be miss perfect – but cant even spell RECIPE. Ms ESPINOSA- since you are so well knowing – do spell check kaya.
    SUGGESTION FOR KAREN ESPINOSA – hay naku Day- MAG ENROLL KA NA LANG SA CULINARY SCHOOL okay. If you want to be an expert or study COMPUTER SCIENCE or whatever…probably study FOOD WRITING / FOOD CRITIC so you can have the edge over us all, di ba. hay naku day – i hate people who hate MM coz just like any avid MM fan – I love this site!

    Mar 4, 2010 | 11:13 pm

  56. misis says:

    im a big fan of this site. i know how MM feels. my partner has a website and its like a child very dear to him. any comments to his website make or break his day. this site is fantastic.

    Mar 4, 2010 | 11:32 pm

  57. mardie c",) says:

    uh-oh…she should have known better than go into the lion’s lair and incur the wrath of not only MM himself but also of the loyal readers of marketmanila. i dont think she had problem looking up a recipe from this site, i think she only wants attention… KSP kumbaga.

    Mar 4, 2010 | 11:34 pm

  58. Mom-Friday says:

    MM, this kind of post makes your blog even more entertaining and interesting, and somehow I enjoy this type of break from your “regular (blog) programming”, hehe…and I can only wish I had your witty sarcasm that very few can pull off ;) keep those “Fishpan” coming :)

    Mar 5, 2010 | 12:00 am

  59. betty q. says:

    Off the topic, MM but since this post is about FISH PANS…I am de-cluttering and found an extra copper fish pan in storage room. If anyone out there …only in Lower Mainland would like to have it…drop me a line. I would rather it went to a good home than goodwill. But if there are no takers, it will go to goodwill. It is in excellent shape, used but stiil well kept. It will fit a baby bangus…not a MAMA or PAPA bangus!

    Mar 5, 2010 | 12:44 am

  60. Olive ♥ says:

    She’s obviously a newbie and doesn’t know what she’s saying..
    She doesn’t deserve to be given your time or space in this blog ..well she’s “lucky” she got your full attention and an award too.. I hope she learned her lesson and hope that others will be warned too to think twice and read their comments first before hitting submit or suffer the Mr.MM’s wrath..joke :D . I know this is easier said than done, but don’t let your critics/detractors get to you next time Mr.MM, they will just give you wrinkles ;)

    Have a nice day!! :)

    Mar 5, 2010 | 1:03 am

  61. natie says:

    first dibs, bettyq!!! c.o.d. ok??? i’ll email u my address…pardon the personal chat here, MM

    Mar 5, 2010 | 1:08 am

  62. zoi says:

    bettyq, if you cant send it to natie, can i have it? i live in richmond. hehehe.

    Mar 5, 2010 | 1:35 am

  63. Pinaycook says:

    MM I am one of your lurkers, I seldom leave a comment, but I regularly check your food blog … I fell in love with Market Manila the very first time I read it, years ago … I may not comment often but I admire your wit & wisdom … just reading your blog makes me happy … it makes me feel that I still have a connection back home … I might be miles & miles away but my heart comes home everytime I read your blog … :)

    Mar 5, 2010 | 1:36 am

  64. Kam says:

    I love your blog! Just wanted to lift your spirits :) I always rely on this site on finding a “sure win” recipe. Ignore that woman’s blah blahs…

    Mar 5, 2010 | 1:52 am

  65. betty q. says:

    Really sorry, MM!

    Ok…FISH PANS are gone! Natie, send me an e-mail and I will mail it to you.

    Zoi…I will give you mine…looks exactly like Natie’s copper fish pan. it is also copper. I figured, both fish pans have been in storage for the last 5 years…so I don’t think I will use it for the next 5 years!

    Mar 5, 2010 | 2:31 am

  66. Rochelle says:

    Don’t worry about what karen say..because lots of people love you and I’m one of those! =)
    all the way from UK… MM you’re the best!

    Mar 5, 2010 | 2:58 am

  67. natie says:

    yey!! did u get my email bettyq? i used the old address with the “mud___e”…thanks you so much..i’ll have a picture taken of myself and the pan and send it to you..Zoi, aren’t we fortunate?? thanks again, MM..

    Mar 5, 2010 | 3:03 am

  68. betty q. says:

    Zoi: I lost your e-mail! I can mail it to you as well if you send me your address.

    Mar 5, 2010 | 3:14 am

  69. quiapo says:

    Good on you Marketman, for your response. Karen Espinosa signed with her name so she is unaware she is transgressing social standards, and needs to be educated, so your response would benefit her. Her comment is surprising; I hope she is not one of the Espinosa clan from Cavite, who are a fine family.
    Perhaps she is a “Surfie Chick”, known in Australia for being focused on beach culture in a somewhat superficial wY, and she was impatiently surfing the internet for mango ice cream.

    Mar 5, 2010 | 3:53 am

  70. christina foss says:

    Well-deserved, MM! But probably lost on people like her anyway. Let’s hope this award doesn’t have to be handed out too often.

    Mar 5, 2010 | 4:14 am

  71. jean says:

    I really do think Ms. Espinosa does not understand how a blog works, otherwise, she wouldn’t be complaining that MM is “only all about post.” It’s like complaining that a calendar is all about dates. Hay naku!!! MM, where’s the reciepy na kasi!!??!!! Seriously though, MM, I give you credit for responding with the facts, while being truthful about how you felt. Mabuhay ka!

    Mar 5, 2010 | 6:24 am

  72. Mary Kim says:

    wow, how lazy she could be if not illogical at all..

    the figures are great! more blessings to Marketmanila and readers!^ ^

    Mar 5, 2010 | 6:27 am

  73. butsoy says:

    to Karen Espinosa : You used “website” 4x in a sentence ! Before you criticized MM “about improving his website” maybe you can look at improving your grammar and spelling . Your post will look more credible.

    Mar 5, 2010 | 7:23 am

  74. joanne says:

    I think your website is cool. Everyday I visit your website to read your blog. It is very interesting and all your recipes looks yummy!!! :)

    Mar 5, 2010 | 8:43 am

  75. ruth, Philippines says:

    Dont worry about it MM. I so love your site, and cant start a day without visiting it.

    Sorry MM, had to use your site for this =) its so unfortunate im in pinas. would love to have miss bettyq’s copper pan too hu hu.

    Mar 5, 2010 | 8:59 am

  76. nina says:

    she’s gotta be kidding!! i have your site bookmarked and on my toolbar!!! I LOVE IT and i know a lot of us share the same feeling!! :)

    Mar 5, 2010 | 10:08 am

  77. shirley says:

    all I can say is I am a fan of this website and even i am just a lurker most of the time, I love this site, very interesting and educating as well. Keep it up MM.

    Sorry MM but may i know if betty q has her own website :-), i am a fan of her as well..

    Mar 5, 2010 | 11:19 am

  78. Fred says:

    ” ka-pow ! ” that’s the first thing I heard in my head when I saw fishpan in the title. ;) Congratz! hopefully the nom learns something from the experience.

    Mar 5, 2010 | 1:48 pm

  79. tamale8888 says:

    You made me smile, MM. Cheers!

    Mar 5, 2010 | 2:57 pm

  80. www.triportreats.com says:

    This made my day!

    You should post this on http://itmademyday.com/

    Hay, in a world of free education and all the tools, some people are just a bit loose on the braincells

    Mar 5, 2010 | 5:48 pm

  81. www.triportreats.com says:

    And I’m really wondering what is taking her so long to give a retort.

    Because you know, If she was having such a hard time looking for that damn mango ice cream recipe in your plethora of a site, I think she can afford MM a bit of gratitude at actually TEACHING her how to SEARCH THE WEB. How many people can admit that they have their own personal Blog teacher?

    Mar 5, 2010 | 6:03 pm

  82. Pinoy Metro Shopper says:

    I like it. Love your response. Your stats are impressive. Hope my site gets that many traffic. All the best!

    Mar 5, 2010 | 8:58 pm

  83. michelle o says:

    Woohoo! Another fishpan moment! And the award goes to….!

    Mar 5, 2010 | 10:02 pm

  84. eden says:

    ang puso mo Mr. MM! there are only a few visitors of Ms. Espinosa’s kind in your blog site, while we are hundreds loving your shared recipes. hay na lang!

    Mar 5, 2010 | 10:14 pm

  85. pinkytab says:

    I totally agree with Lee on this but I can also see your point MM. Just remember that there are people like Karen who are not as tech savy and articulate as some of your readers so she did not know to search the archives first nor did she know to state her feeling or observation in a more acceptable manner. I was saddened to see a lot of comments that seemed to cheer you on.

    Mar 6, 2010 | 12:06 am

  86. zoi says:

    hi bettyq, here’s my email – richmond_bc10@yahoo.com.

    natie, we are so fortunate!

    MM, sorry for this. i really want to have that fishpan of bettyq.

    thanks heaps!

    Mar 6, 2010 | 1:37 am

  87. jenny says:

    Marktetman, i believe sometimes when you get comments like Karen’s, the best way to deal with them, is simply not to publish it. They just want their hour of fame and maybe using your popular blog to make their name.

    Mar 6, 2010 | 7:16 am

  88. dragon says:

    It’s nice to have posts like this from MM, entertainment value!

    She must have crawled back to her cave, LOL.

    Mar 6, 2010 | 1:09 pm

  89. Lee says:

    hi junb.. are you looking for this kind of lee? I’m still dropping comments here and there.. depending if I get decent wifi connection.

    Hello Marketman.. while I was in my “garrison” somewhere out there I actually “Alexa-ed” this site and the stats are really cool.

    Mar 6, 2010 | 6:12 pm

  90. GayeN says:

    Hahaha! I just love it when a fishpan post comes out =)

    Mar 6, 2010 | 10:21 pm

  91. Mari says:

    I don’t know what she is thinking about… MM, ever since I saw you in Anthony Bourdain’s No Reservations, I have been a big fan of yours in this blog. I appreciate all the sharing of your expeditions around the world and your experiments of food. If Karen really read the blogs, she would really see the recipes typed down in detail… I am very grateful that you are sharing this to everyone. To all those negative lurkers out there, read first before making comments…or rather just search again on the net till you find what you are looking for.

    More power MM!

    Mar 7, 2010 | 1:03 am

  92. moni says:

    I agree with Lee and Jenny. No need to give blog visitors like Karen their moment of notoriety. Biglang sikat cia considering that this blog is read by thousands of ardent fans like the rest of us. Cheer up MM.

    Mar 7, 2010 | 9:31 am

  93. spyalum says:

    love this blog…love your wit…i totally agree with you…let’s just keep it real.

    Mar 7, 2010 | 2:49 pm

  94. junb says:

    yup I was correct its a different Lee :). Lee welcome back we miss your comment.

    Mar 7, 2010 | 10:18 pm

  95. lalaine says:

    ms karen espinosa, marketmanila.com is the first site i go to (even before checking my mail) whenever i can take a breather from my duties as a home maker. i have also found this site as ONE of the realible educated food blog reference in the phils on anything about food. if you just happen to access the net through bacteria infested internet cafes and have no cable tv, or travel and living channel is not your thing, then you really would not know anthony bourdain and marketman.

    Mar 7, 2010 | 10:55 pm

  96. Quillene says:

    Hooray for the Fishpan Awards!!!

    Fishpan! Fishpan! Fishpan!

    Mar 8, 2010 | 9:37 am

  97. Trisha Gonzalez says:


    This is why I have this site bookmarked!

    Mar 8, 2010 | 12:58 pm

  98. iya says:

    Way to go, MM! :)

    Mar 8, 2010 | 6:22 pm

  99. Rocky says:

    Nahilo ako sa post ni Ms. Karen. Verbal diarrhea indeed! (Made me remember some beauty pageant candidates in the Q&A portion XD )

    Mar 8, 2010 | 7:24 pm

  100. Emily says:

    MM, as a long-time reader (albeit infrequent commenter), I’m of two minds about this. I fully agree that people should be held accountable for what they say.

    If rudeness goes unpunished (out of charity), others may interpret it as a sign that it’s all right to be rude when it is not. In essence, you are opening your house to a big online party; no one is being forced to stay against their will, and rude guests who come in and complain about the food shouldn’t be surprised when they are shown the door and told why. That is what you’re doing with your fishpan posts. They also serve as a valuable object lesson on what behavior is or isn’t tolerated, and are often very informative in themselves. (It was interesting to find out about your Alexa rankings, for instance.)

    On the other hand, I’m very uncomfortable with the way regular readers take these occasional rants as a signal that it’s ok for them to pile on the original offender.

    This is a great community as evidenced by number of comments generated by each post, and the conversations that take place in the comments. MM readers listen and respond to each other, an aspect that is enough of a rarity on the blogosphere to be worth noting. Commenters are also great at reminding newcomers what is acceptable behavior. So when the rare Fishpan Award posts show up, it seems to me that the public naming and shaming is punishment enough (and makes the point clearly enough), and all the other commenters chiming in to say, basically, “Way to go, MM! Offender, you suck!” are not actually adding anything constructive to the discussion. It reminds me of someone getting kicked when he’s already down, even if his actions were what led to the fall in the first place.

    Other commenters have written to express the same concerns. This may be a minority point of view; I submit it nonetheless as food for thought, if nothing else.

    If I had one suggestion to make, it would be to close the comments on posts like these. (This does not hold true for experiences with bad customer service, for example, where commenters can and do compare experiences and swap tips and contact numbers and details in order to resolve such problems.)

    And while I’m at it, thank you for providing such a wonderful blog to so many of us in the Philippines and elsewhere.

    Mar 9, 2010 | 3:18 am

  101. Batangueno says:

    Ditto, Emily.

    Mar 9, 2010 | 4:15 am

  102. Issa / You Want to Be Rich says:

    Haha! She sounds like a spammer, though. But we are so proud of you, MarketMan. Please keep up cranking your wonderful posts!

    Mar 10, 2010 | 2:54 pm

  103. eight says:

    i really love your blog, mm! :)

    Jul 30, 2010 | 4:25 pm


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